• @[email protected]OP
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    11 month ago

    Like I said: If the military command was bad, Ukraine would have lost the war by now.

    Sure because that whole article is bullshit propaganda by people who will never have to fight in war themselves.

    You’re avoiding fighting in the war. I will be perfectly willing to protect your right to speak on it, I guess, to “have a voice” as you put it. But I think under the system you propose, you’d be required to shut up and say nothing well before a group of partisans who are taking an active part in resisting the occupation. If you’re actively avoiding requirements to fight for Ukraine, why should you be “allowed” (in your system) to speak on their behalf?

    • @Ciralinde
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      11 month ago

      I agree. I wanted to say it’s kind of immoral to write that propaganda when you’re not even fighting yourself. And it’s twice as immoral when you know that no one wants to fight anymore and people are forced against their will. Not that something should be banned.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        11 month ago

        And it’s twice as immoral when you know that no one wants to fight anymore and people are forced against their will.

        Do you know how effective military forces are, when people are fighting against their will?

        What’s your explanation for why Russia outnumbers Ukraine about 20-to-1, is outspending them by about 10-to-1, and is stalled about 100 km from the border, after three years of fighting?

        • @Ciralinde
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          11 month ago

          Idk where you get that from, you can check the map that is updated every day here: https://deepstatemap.live I just checked total occupied territory month ago and today and it’s 68196-67889=307 km in a month.

          • @[email protected]OP
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            11 month ago

            km, not km². The red part at the eastern edge of Ukraine is about 100 km thick.

            My point is that that’s an incredibly poor showing for Russia fighting against a massively outnumbered enemy that’s mismanaging a war fought by people who don’t want to fight. And, on top of that, they have people giving advice to NATO and the EU about how they should organize their militaries, as if they have a bunch of authority and insight as to how to do it. What’s your explanation?

            • @Ciralinde
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              11 month ago

              They can’t efficiently extend frontline “into the depth” (km) because it leads to “cauldrons”, so they extend it along all the border.

              My point is that that’s an incredibly poor showing for Russia fighting against a massively outnumbered enemy that’s mismanaging a war fought by people who don’t want to fight.

              It took 2 absurd failing counteroffensives to wipe all willing soldiers and forced conscription started just half of year ago, and everything was on rapid decline since then. It doesn’t all happen overnight.

        • @Ciralinde
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          11 month ago

          Also, it’s 68196-65871=2325 km since September 3.