Title reads like at ad, but this is a new way to reach energy independence. I actually have a small EcoFlow device and it’s pretty good for the price.

I hope this tech can be made available in the US soon.

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      Yeah. My grandfather (former electrician and electrical inspector) had a specific outlet he’d plug a gas generator in to back feed power into the house. This was in the 80s and 90s.

      He also pointed out that he turned the main off so it did not back feed into the grid and power lines that a lineman is expecting to not be live.

      • @[email protected]
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        327 months ago

        From the article:

        And when there’s a power outage, the PowerStream will turn off automatically to ensure there’s no electricity in the wires in order to protect line workers from shock. The PowerStream will only turn back on when the grid power returns.

      • @[email protected]
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        137 months ago

        Yeah my parents house had an rv/generator hookup and it had a huge bar across both the breakers so power could only flow in one direction. If you hooked up a generator it would cut the house off from the mains.

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        Your grandfather’s extra outlet for the alternate feed was the other half of a switch that flipped over when the mains power died. It shuts off the power connection to the house by flipping over and ensures no power goes back over the line, among other things. We have these - albeit the size of a washing machine - in really big datacenters.

        • elmicha
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          17 months ago

          You cannot plug in any old power source, but you can with special micro inverters.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 months ago

        Thanks for the info, very interesting!

        I wonder if just plugging a power source in a socket would work in a more modern setting?

        Had all electricity redone last year, there was some crazy stuff from the fifties, a hot line going everywhere, just plug into it and ground it, power everywhere 😵‍💫. Guess I could have plugged some power in anywhere (cutting off the mains).

        Now there are differential and fuses for every applience etc.

        • @[email protected]
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          107 months ago

          If you want to power your house independently from the grid, your house has to be independent from the grid.
          Anything where you sell your excess power back to the grid is in tight cooperation with the grid operators.

          Standard house wiring is not set up to accommodate back feeding the grid nor independently powering.
          So you will need a changeover switch professionally fitted if you want an independent power source, or your solar panel installers will fit the appropriate equipment to back-feed the grid.
          Anything else will likely involve deaths, fires, broken equipment, criminal prosecution, insurance invalidation and all that nasty stuff.

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            67 months ago

            insurance invalidation

            For clarity, if you do a stupid job at your DIY solar installation and it burns your house down, that is likely a covered cause of loss. There isn’t a policy exclusion for stupidity, unfortunately.

            There may be an exclusion for the panels themselves since you could argue that improper workmanship was the proximate cause of loss, but the ensuing damage would likely be covered.

            A similar scenario would be an improper plumbing repair flooding your house. Insurance won’t pay to redo the plumbing that was wrong, but it will pay to fix the water damage.

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      127 months ago

      Should not be via a standard wall jack. As far as I know.

      • @[email protected]
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        87 months ago

        Depends on electrical code which depends on, most of all, your standard plugs. In Germany Schuko is deemed non-optimal, but acceptable, for up to 800W.

        …no issues regarding exposed prongs, if the inverter doesn’t see AC to sync to it doesn’t output anything. It’s not a dumb spinny magnet generator we’re talking about here.

        Most people don’t have an outlet on their balcony, though, and weather-proofing the thing is an issue in any case so while you’re at it you can just as well put in a proper Wieland outlet. 20 bucks or so, the expensive part will be the electrician not the outlet.

      • @[email protected]
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        47 months ago

        Eh, that’s pretty standard where I live. Didn’t even know there were non standard wall jacks lol

      • hedidwot
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        17 months ago

        If it has anti islanding at least it’s unlikely to be a shock hazard.

        That said are there any other concerns I’m missing?

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            27 months ago

            This particular product says it’s 800W max. Most residential wall outlets installed in the last 30 years should be able to handle that (in the US). Also, it’s a product only available in Europe at the moment where they do 220 through the wall, so less than 4 amps which is stupidly low.

            Yes, being able to power your whole house through a single outlet is insane. Unless your house draws less than 800W

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            That’s what anti islanding is.

            Prevents power from going into the grid when it’s down.

            Way I read it is it puts surplus into the grid to keep you elec bills down.

            800 watts isn’t exactly going to set an outlet on fire.