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I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.
And so: Hello Lemmy! Here I am! Left ‘socials’ like reddit, dropped hotmail and google accounts … i’ts not much but it’s start
Welcome!
Welcome, new one!
Kick them out of Ramstein.
Migrating cloud servers to European hosters. Give EU money to improve/build a linux desktop. Use that desktop in government, schools, universities… (instead of Windows). Fork Firefox. Host fediverse services and use them where the governments use Twitter / TikTok / Insta.
Harder: Mandate for mobile phones with a user installable OS (Cyanogen etc.) Force tech companies to provide total transparency about data usage. Cancel any safe harbor agreements.
In the end, everything the Open Source crowd wished for.
Btw, I’d have no issues with American / Russian / China hosted open source stuff when we can review what it does. Ah, ok, a “european code review agency” might be a thing.
What exactly does the US produce that is imported into the EU? Consumer market, of course, where one person has choice in the matter.
Guns
That’s like saying you import cars because they’re big in American culture.
The differences are similar. American ones are large, vainglorious, and for purposes the user will never encounter.
European ones are precision engineered to the function required.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAKO
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta
Beretta is French and Glock is Austrian.
Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.
Not to mention Tesla.
Fuck us up, y’all!
Sincerely,
Ashamed American
Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time
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In what way exactly is the current administration better?
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Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.
If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his
clownsclan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.intellectual property laws are idiotic laws.
We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.
With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.
We need an Europan open source stack.
What kind of stack are you thinking of?
Piracy!
EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal
Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:L_202302675
Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:
ANNEX I
Union response measures pursuant to Article 8
[…]
- The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.
This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.
That would be amazing! It would actually have some teeth
This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?
Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023
If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.
And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.
We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.
Awesome. I hadn’t heard of this.
Quick look at their website shows they’ve actually achieved some pretty great things.
This is a great example. You can’t just stop buying everything. Boycotting specific companies with specific demands is the way.
Sodastream? What did they do?
Sodastream used to have a factory in the West Bank where they employed hundreds of Palestinians. Because of boycott pressure, they moved and hundreds of Palestinian workers lost their jobs.
BDS only cares about hurting Israel, no matter the consequences to Palestinians.
Sodastream have a nasty habit of looking for a vulnerable, oppressed population, building a factory on illegally stolen land, hiring a few of the locals for peanuts and then screaming that they are “helping” them.
Did it to the Palestinians in the West Bank and when that failed relocated it in land confiscated from the Bedouins. It’s in an artificial forced resettlement area where Bedouins have been forced to live in an Israeli-constructed town and industrial park.
It is an Israeli company that used to operate a plant in illegally occupied territory in the Westbank as well as mistreating Palestinian workers. It moved to a factory in the Negev desert inside the 1967 borders. The new factory however is part of displacing Palestinian Bedouins that live in the Negev. Also the mistreatment of Palestinian workers continued.
Ultimately of course all Israeli companies also pay corporate taxes which finance the Israeli executive such as Army, Police forces and Intelligence.
https://bdsmovement.net/news/“sodastream-still-subject-boycott”
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Looks like they had some facilities on palestinian land.
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It’s an Israel-based company https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244
“Calls for Europe to stop eating garbage food like Americans.” Sounds like a good idea to me.
We have our own garbage food. If you don’t go to McDonald’s or Burger King, you can go to Hesburger or whatever else your region has. Admittedly still inspired by American garbage food, but profits European companies.
Hesburger? Interesting, I’ll have to look that up, haven’t heard of it.
Finland and Baltics mostly. It’s the biggest chain here in Estonia by locations (unless you count gas stations), but probably 2nd in popularity because McDonald’s seems more popular. Idk if they put crack on their fries or what, but it’s just not comparable.
Close, copious amounts of sugar
I’m American (embarrassed to say that right now) and came to visit this site to get off Reddit. Even we are exploring non-US options.
Don’t be embarrassed of being an American, you can be embarrassed of your politicians, of the people that represent you without being embarrassed of where you were born. You can criticize all the bads things in your country (and your country has done) while also being proud of the good things!
But to be fair, you were warned about political parties from the start of your democracy, and even with the warning having just 2 is terrible.
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America is fucking garbage. Shut the fuck up.
Welcome and have fun! Glad to see you over on this side :)
Anyone else in northern Europe noticing that all the US products are the shitty ones you never buy anyway? I think the only American stuff I ever buy is steam games. No food. I was already boycotting Starbucks and MacDonalds over Palestine.
I’ve been boycotting Starbucks for 10 years because it’s shit coffee, and McDonalds for 30 years because it’s shit food.
Yeah… It’s 24 hour opening so It was sometimes my shitty late night takeaway and I’d always regret it - my guts took 2 days to recover no matter what I ate… And apparently the MacDonald’s food in america is even worse. Also trump eats it every day, so I can guess why he has to wear diapers.
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American here: genuinely, go for it. If you want to be even more highly targeted, you can also take a page out of Canada’s book: they’re encouraging people to target things that are produced in red states specifically, in addition to a general push for a boycott. Bourbon (from Kentucky), for instance.
Most grocery stores now highlight Canadian goods next to the price tag on the shelf
As an American here, I think I might join them. Start buying more Canadian goods.
Like their whiskey!
That was my first thought. I want to find one that is smaller and distributed near me.
I might start with Crown Royal. At least the owning company is British (they also own my favorite American whiskey.)
Hah, same.
Good and the Orange Shitstain wants the EU to import more US made goods. Canada should cut the electric power flowing to the USA when the US tariffs commence.
