Have we really not grown out of this “console war” bullshit mentality?
I agree, that’s why I choose the Steam Deck, not a console, it’s a linux computer in the form of a handheld.
People can compare products you know.
People should compare products. Allegiance to one company gets you abused in the end every time.
You don’t live in Australia do you
All our games cost $100AUD even on steam
Not a Nintendo fanboy. But their own IP games are truly fun. That alone is enough incentive to buy the switch
To emulate* on my desktop 😌
This.
Yeah, this is the only reason I have a Switch. I’m a sucker for their first party games, and I will probably buy a Switch 2 for Mario Odyssey 2 alone.
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10 year old mario kart 8 is like 70 bucks or somethingwith dlc. They have lost their mind and people still pay for it.
Why would people want to buy fun games and support their development? Are they crazy?
Something interesting is that Steam users, (myself included) will ignore a game not on sale, I couldn’t tell you why. The only thing I can think of is that we are so used to things being “on sale” we forget that there was a reason it was priced at that amount in the first place.
$60
$70looks better than $60Factorio is an interesting example, its never on sale. It’s just the price. In fact it keeps going up in price.
I couldn’t tell you why.
Because steam always has a plethora of amazing games on sale. You could never buy a full price game and still never run out of awesome things to play. And even if there is a particular game you want, it’ll almost certainly be on sale within a few months. I’d have to double check, but I don’t think I’ve paid more than 40 bucks for any single game in years.
The Steam Deck can run Biebian and Hannah Montana Linux fairly easily. That’s not really a selling point just another thing Nintendo isn’t bringing to the table.
I impulse bought a deluxe Need for Speed game a few weeks ago for $6.50. I’ve already played it 65 hours. I don’t want to jump into the math of it but I reckon I would need to enjoy Mario Kart for much greater than 650 hours before I would get the same hours per dollar value NfS: Heat has brought me thanks to a Steam sale. And Mario Kart could never catch up in miles per hour.
Just a heads up you’ll get to learn how to navigate Linux if you change your mind on the starter car. The only way I could start a new save file was by manually deleting the old one in the file system. It was a little frustrating but served as a good reminder that it is a handheld computer not just an outlet for gaming.
The steam deck is awesome. I love my little handheld computer.
You could even buy something like an ROG Ally for a similar price and still get a bit more performance
The funny part is steam has the most exclusives of em all.
It also has integrated microphone and you can also talk to your friends while playing 🤣
Not allowing strangers to talk to my kid is absolutely a Switch selling point.
Sooo this is how I learn that my Steam Deck has a built in microphone.
I’m not very perceptive and thought the little notch at the top of the screen was nothing.
If you’re not being sarcastic, check out “Desk Job” on Steam. It’s a free small game which shows all SD functionality.
I’ve not tested it myself, but others have said it’s best to wear headphones otherwise there will be some echo for the voice chat.
And steam chat doesn’t require a subscription
Of course, and even if they do you could always switch to any other chat software because you’re literally playing on PC.
And gamecube games… and wii games and n64 games and ps2 games…
Steam has this crazy concept where as a game gets older, you don’t have to pay as much for it as when it was new! Pretty wild, I know.
GOG is cheaper. Steam does have more franchise deals though.
GOG is also DRM-free and lets you download the game installer as a backup, even if they’ve been pushing hard for their GOG Galaxy clients as of lately.
Sadly GOG isn’t even close to as good as Steam for Linux support.
True. But for the most part I game on a Windows box. Most games don’t have Linux support and I don’t want to bother trying to run things through Wine. I have 2 seperate comps for Linux and Windows. I pretty much use my Windows computer for for gaming and blender because it has the better graphics card and processor.
Indeed, it’s not their main goal either. Unfortunately tools like Lutris, while doing awesome work, are utterly overwhelmed by both the influx of people as well as the amount of games. And while most GOG games work with the auto-generated installers, many do not and require custom installers that are often unmaintained and quickly become outdated.
Gog stopped their own linux launcher and instead unofficially partnered up with heroic (heroic got their own affiliate link). Until now it works pretty well.
Gog stopped their own linux launcher and instead unofficially partnered
Stop spreading this nonsense.
Heroic added affiliated links to their software that anyone can apply for (without notifying the users at first).
I have been using the Heroic launcher a ton on my Steam Deck, it is great!
I am not sure if you replied to the wrong thread, good for you that it works for your needs, but
My point is that GOG did not drop Linux support and instead partnered with another company. Not about the quality of the software.
- Gog waning Linux support is completely unrelated to Heroic
- Gog did not seek partnership
- Heroic devs just applied to a program that anyone can apply to.
That said, it is shady to inject links and not notify it on the release note or change log. I think there was a message on their mastodon at some point, and the implementation crashed for some people with more restrictive firewall on their network, there were some discussions on the issues page of their code repository.
It’s not Valve that makes the decision, check how many times Factorio was on sale.
I respect their integrity.
Yep. In the case of Factorio, for now at least, it’s evergreen. It’s priced cheaper than it probably could be honestly and it’ll only get better. Likely anyone not interested with the current price tag isn’t interested at all. Not going on sale means you never feel the need to wait for a sale. You just buy it when you want to.
Even though I bought the expansion and haven’t even played a single second of it yet (factorio burn out is real). It’s still the cheapest game I’ve ever legally acquired in terms of £/s
I find it absolutely hillarious that you measure it per second lmao
You never played a free game even for a second?
I never agree with the $/time metric being used, but it is the easiest. I prefer (enjoyment/time)/$. If a game drags itself out just to keep me playing, I don’t value that.
With that said, Factorio is great for this too. Even with the current price (which is not the price I paid), it’s an amazing value. Once you consider the mods that are available, it’s easily worth the price.
Same thing with RimWorld. They only go down like 10% because they want players who want the game for what it is, not just a cheap bargain. I respect it. A lot of love put into that game.
I wonder when the next Rimworld expansion is coming, presumably not too far off by now? Curious to see what new warcrimes it adds.
Escept for red dead redemption. RDR2 is actually cheaper for some reason
My experience is that games on Steam are still far more expensive than their pendants for PS4 or similar on ebay (new).
I think it depends on the developer sometimes, for example when Microsoft announced they were going to delist Forza Horizon 4 (June of last year) they put it on sale multiple times at 80% until it was delisted on December 16
Ah yes, the Deck vs. Switch debate. One offers performance and affordability, the other offers nostalgia at premium prices. Choose your fighter: the powerhouse or the Pokémon tax.
Considering the Steam Deck can run just about every console game ever made up to PS2 gen (and a good amount made after), I’d say they have the Switch 2 beat on nostalgia.
I play Steel Panthers on my steam deck, a DOS game from the 90s
Yeah but not the memberberries kind!
Nintendo’s been hitting the memberberries for so long that 20 year old games have memberberry moments in them.
2005 GC games: Mario kart, smash, Mario party, animal crossing, Luigi’s mansion, Metroid, zelda
2025 SW games: Mario kart, smash, Mario party, animal crossing, Luigi’s mansion, Metroid, Zelda
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Palworld for the win.
Haha right? Palworld really said ‘what if Pokémon had guns and capitalism’ and somehow made it work
Pokémon with black Jack and hookers.
And slavery.
And
colonialismbase building
You can emulate almost any Nintendo game from before 2016 on a steamdeck. Just got to wait a few more years for the switch emulators to get efficient enough to run well on the steam deck!
I know I’m not the standard pokemon fan, but showdown still exists if you just like to battle. The in-game gameplay of pokemon has always been a little lackluster to me and I don’t like VGC/doubles.
ROM hacks can be fun, and I have done some self imposed challenge runs. I can’t see myself finishing any of the Prof oak challenges I did without emu speedup.
I still have my GBC with pokemon yellow and a flash cart with (almost, missing the new ones) every GB and GBC rom in existence on it that supports save states, and can emulate many switch games on the deck iirc if I were somehow nostalgic for those, and in fact can emulate basically any nintendo game from history I may be nostalgic for better than the switch, among other games nintendo didn’t make.
Which one is the real nostalgia machine? (Hint: It’s the Gameboy Color lol)
“Powerhouse”
now we know why the crackdown on switch emulators.
Switch 2 proceeds to outsell the deck by a factor of 50
Steam is clearly playing the long game with Steam Deck and Steam OS, they’re basically trying to slowly normalize portable gaming pcs. If they achieve this Nintendo will not be just facing competition from Steam Deck but from multiple devices from the likes of Asus, Lenovo, Dell (Alienware).
Absolutely. Nintendo has huge fanbase with most of them not caring about Nintendo ripping them off and Nintendo has some of the most highly regarded and iconic gaming IPs in the world and Nintendo has insane marketing budget behind the Switch 2 and the switch doubles as a home console.
I love the Deck but it’s not going to outsell the Switch and I think Valve isn’t interested in pulling people away from the Switch. Valve made the Deck primarily for Steam users and that’s who they’re targeting.
Even PS Portal sales is not that far from Deck. You know, the handheld that people said won’t sell
Haha. Not in the US, thank you Mr. Trump very much.
You can also install a Switch emulator and just keep it even if Nintendo cease&decists again.
steam voice chat
PC exclusive games
Get every GameCube game for free instantly by pirating them
Well not instantly because you have to wait for your torrent client to download it
GameCube, Wii… Even switch if you can find an emulator fork that still works
Switch emulators are still just as easy to find as they always were. Most people include them with the game.
Don’t forget Wii U! Oh, right, they ported everything worthwhile to the Switch.
Yoshi’s Wooly World
So cutee
True, it got a 3DS port, but not Switch!
something sonething those people who want wwhd/tphd
For people who didn’t get it: he’s talking about Zelda Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD.
What Would Hellspawn Do?
Tony Pawk’s Pro Dater?
Tony Pawk’s Pro Dater?
Sounds like a parody porn game
If this is what I think it is (The second touch screen)
There is a youtuber working on that in android.
Two notable exceptions!
Sidebar in my community has links for the surviving Switch emu forks, but I haven’t tried installing them on Linux/Deck yet.
Assume it’s going to be far more manual than a Flatpak or whatever for the time being :S
It literally is just install a flatpak, then configure the control scheme in the emu, maybe tweak some settings, add it to your steam library, map the steam controls to the emu controls in game mode.
EmuDeck/RetroDeck automate most of this or you can just find the individual emus in the Discover software center.
… They might actually perform better if you compiled the entire thing from source on your Deck, which is possible to do, but is significantly more of a hassle, gotta set up a root pw, turn off read only mode, hope you can actually find all the sources for the dependencies, know how to tune/tweak the compile parameters to optimally use the Deck’s hardware…
Ive gotten Ryujinx working via flatpak… but uh… lets just say I’d have to delve into OCing/PowerToolsing my Deck to get it to actually run many Switch/WiiU games at a playable framerate.
It works, its stable software wise… but the Deck isn’t quite powerful enough.
… Also, it could be that most modern emus are designed to map consoles onto traditional PC architecture, and ironically the Deck uses an APU which is closer to many consoles, so it doesn’t actually perform as well as it could with better support.
How does 3DS run? I have a hacked Switch so can just run Switch games on that, but 3DS is beyond the Switch’s capabilities.
So, I have literally never used a 3ds emulator before, ever.
EmuDeck set up Azahar in a few minutes, a few minutes more for me to find an OoT rom, a few minutes more to dl it…
…a few minutes more to figure out that the EmuDeck parser thing either isn’t working at finding 3ds files … or I am a moron and you just install the .cia (what a file extension name) into the Emu, in Desktop mode.
Add the Azahar emulator itself into steam library via EmuDeck which launches Steam Rom Manager…
Back out into game mode, launch Azahar, launch OoT, and yep, it works, also wow I forgot the 3ds has two screens, Azahar’s default render screen sectioning for this is weird, but it works!
Turn on performance overlay, looks like I’m getting a solid 60 fps, rendering the main game screen at double the DS’s native resolution.
Start a new save file, go through the intro sequence, run around in my treehouse room a bit…
All works, save for a few instances of the audio playing… a bit too fast, or too slow, for maybe a split second, in a few parts of the Navi flying really fast intro sequence.
… So… seems to work just fine, basically?
Probably I could tinker with Azahar’s settings a bit to see if I can iron out the mild audio quirks, but I’d say thats pretty good for a total elapsed time of about 30 minutes, and me having literally zero experience with 3ds emus, much less on a Deck.
EmuDeck handled making up the control scheme layout in Game Mode, which worked fine in game, automatically, I just had to deal with some mild awkwardness of double clicking on OoT with the trackpad to launch it.
Thanks for trying it out! Sounds like it’ll require tinkering to get games running smoothly. About what I’d expect!
It might be worth noting that I was running Azahar through Vulkan… which … I think is currently listed as an ‘experimental’ level of support by Azahar’s website.
It recommends OpenGL for better support and stability.
I ran around more in Kokiri Village, no more audio spikes. I think its just due to how certain cutscenes quick load scene transitions.
Also, I completely didn’t expect this to just work, but it does:
The secondary screen, that’s touch sensitive on a 3ds?
Well the Deck’s screen is touch sensitive as well.
Worked just fine to navigate through the map and item menus and what not, just poking the Deck’s screen itself.
I’m just referring to possibly outdated package repos which may not have kept up with the forks and all the drama, but I could be easily wrong with outdated info. I haven’t touched my steam deck in a couple months :p
EmuDeck isn’t letting you auto install Yuzu anymore…
But it does install Ryujinx for you.
But it doesn’t provide BIOS or prod/title keys, gotta find those on your own.
There’s also Citron, but EmuDeck just lets you know it exists and won’t auto dl it.
Ryujinx has a flatpak (though its a fork) in the base Discover store on a Deck running SteamOS, so its just on mainline flathub.
Yuzu and Citron appear to no longer be on flathub.
Thank you for your service o7
I’m sold
I love my Steam Deck but it doesn’t have Mario Kart or even anything like it
Isnt there an open source linux cart racer?
The nickolodeon cart racer is fun and I have heard one of the sonic cart racing game is real good.
lol there are so many racing as well as cart games, and the fact you can run literally any Nintendo game on PC
None of them really compare, and I’m not really interested in setting up emulation.
you’ll pay the price, one way or the other
C’est la vie.
SuperTuxKart exists for a native Linux kart racer, and it’s FOSS on top of that. Oh, and since STK is FOSS, I can imagine there are some tracks as intricate as anything in modern MarioKart if not moreso, that the community around it made for it.
SuperTuxKart is a neat indie game, but I really would not compare it to Mario Kart or try to recommend it as a substitute.
Sadly the trend of $80 for a digital copy of games will be copied by every major AAA studio in the following years if Nintendo succeed. The switch 1 games are not pricer than others at launch, they just never for whatever fucking reason become cheaper.
And then AAA studios will see their games stay on digital shelves indefinitely and pirating skyrocket and they’ll learn that they’re not nintendo and trying to be will bankrupt them.
ultimate
A hacked Switch is a pretty good Nintendo piracy device, too.
If you can find one without the updated firmware
I got mine at launch. It’ll be the gift that keeps on giving since Switch games are going to be continued to be released at least until 2026.
I can’t talk to my friends while I play my deck? News to me
Pretty sure you can.
I mean it’s a Linux computer. So you could prob just call your friends on discord.
Exactly
No, you’re not allowed. You need to pay special Talking To Friends license
