• Meursault
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    275 days ago

    Yes, please. As a Californian who is already looking to move abroad, it would be a dream come true for my state to do it for me.

      • Meursault
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        215 days ago

        My heart goes out to the rational minority in the red states. My advice to them is to leave while they can, however they can. This very well could be a matter of life and death.

        • @[email protected]
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          45 days ago

          Your heart goes out to us, how sweet, I’ll think of your heart when me and my friends who cannot leave are rounded up and sent to camps.

          • Meursault
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            165 days ago

            “Cannot leave?” My brother in Christ. If I honestly thought that my life was genuinely in danger of a violent end, should I remain where I am, I’d leave without hesitation. It costs nothing to get in your car and drive until you are across state lines RIGHT NOW, this very instant. I wouldn’t worry about selling my house, closing escrow (or trying to communicate or formalize anything with a landlord, were I renting), “getting my affairs in order”, or whatever else. I would first load up my car and then GTFO right goddamn NOW while I still draw breath. Yes, it’d be a hassle having to deal with those loose ends later, but my first priority would be my own self-preservation.

            • @[email protected]
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              45 days ago

              No, I think I’ll stay and try to protect whoever I can. I’ll probably get killed, I’ve more or less made peace with that.

              • Meursault
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                15 days ago

                That’s at least a stance I can admire. Keep yourself and your loved ones safe. And if it comes to it, you show those fascists what hell looks like when it wears the skin of a gentle human.

            • @Squirrelanna
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              25 days ago

              Except, you know, the cost of the car and the gas and the food and shelter when you do get across state lines. All famously very cheap and affordable things.

              • Meursault
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                95 days ago

                Are you really waiting to be spoon fed? I never said everything would be gravy. I said if I was honestly certain I was going to die by staying in my state, I’d fucking leave NOW without waiting for jack shit. Everyone is going to have their own support and ways of surviving, and that’s something to think about only AFTER I’m in a safe location. This is still going to be difficult, and you’ll still have to actually think for yourself. But at least you won’t be actively hunted anymore.

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                  Spoon-fed? What? States are HUGE. If you don’t ALREADY have a car you own, you gotta have fare for a bus or a train. If you don’t? You have to walk, and that’s not a realistic option for most people, particularly those who live in conservative areas spanning multiple states. God forbid you live in southern Texas. Cars are expensive, and fare for transportation out of state is also pretty damn expensive, especially since these dangerous areas tend to neglect their affordable public transport options. It’s great that YOU have the money upfront to even start getting out. Not everyone has the privilege.

                  To be clear, I’m not arguing against getting out. I’m taking umbridge with your statement that “It costs nothing to get in your car…” etc. GETTING a car is a cost.

          • @[email protected]
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            24 days ago

            Look, I’ve got no dog in this fight, but in my opinion, something you need to make peace with is that the people in blue states have to watch out for themselves too, before the rot spreads too far and they find the modern day Gestapo on their own streets, killing their own people.

            And if/when they do split, try to understand them, and blame the fascists, not those trying to escape from fascism.

            Either way, if your life is threatened by fascists, I hope you’ll survive and make it out. If you don’t, I hope you’ll put up a good fight, but that’s up to you to decide, not me. I wish the best to all of you and hope that here in Europe we won’t decide to follow through on the whole right-wing swing of the pendulum.