Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones? How many groups are willing to scapegoat before you start holding people with actual institutional power accountable?
Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones?
Your argument is that the powerless shouldn’t be held accountable for the sins of the powerful. Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Sorry that you think that welcoming genocide is only bad when Dem elites do it, and not when voters ushering in fascism do it.
Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats. Latino support for the Democratic ticket dropped 8 points between 2020 and 2024. Muslim support dropped 49%. Black support for Harris dropped as well, even if it was mostly among men. And I’m just going by exit polls; I’m not even counting the people who stopped showing up.
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats.
Fucking what? “Fascist propaganda worked in this election, therefore, supporting genocide is okay”?
Oh. Or are you one of those people who are still saying “You LIBS are just fearmongering!” about Trump?
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Sorry that you think supporting fascism is okay if you’re only a small part of the support.
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we’ve reached the racist, “savior,” trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda?
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason. Sorry that minorities being people is such a radical idea for you. If you get me a pedestal, I can stand on it for you to worship me.
If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities. I pointed out that people voting against their interest means nothing. Sorry that that was too complex for you to parse.
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason.
Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities.
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.
It’s framing them as victims to say that propaganda works?
Do you… do you think that I believe that left-abstainers flipped a coin one morning and decided to go against their stated principles?
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities.
Okay. And?
Again, saying that propaganda works means nothing. “Jews for Hitler” didn’t mean that Nazi voters and apathetic-abstainers weren’t betraying Jewish folk by letting the Nazis into power, and that Nazi voters were betraying Jewish folk wouldn’t have changed if “Jews for Hitler” were one million voters strong instead of one hundred strong.
B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead.
… and you think, then, that enabling this person who’s going to get large amounts of minorities killed who otherwise would not be is… what?
Some kind of service to us?
C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
First and foremost, it says that many people, across all demographics, are fascists or indifferent to fascists.
That Dems are incompetent is true, but hardly the core problem; 2/3s of the country is okay with fascism.
If the only two people running are Mr. Magoo and Adolf Hitler, and a voter thinks it’s acceptable to let Hitler win, that voter is a fascist or a fascist enabler. End of. And that is not some minor thing, some little oopsie, but a major problem.
If the only two people running are Mr. Magoo and Adolf Hitler, and a voter thinks it’s acceptable to let Hitler win, that voter is a fascist or a fascist enabler. End of. And that is not some minor thing, some little oopsie, but a major problem.
What if they’d been subjected to a “Fascist propaganda” campaign, as you called it?
Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones? How many groups are willing to scapegoat before you start holding people with actual institutional power accountable?
Your argument is that the powerless shouldn’t be held accountable for the sins of the powerful. Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Sorry that you think that welcoming genocide is only bad when Dem elites do it, and not when voters ushering in fascism do it.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats. Latino support for the Democratic ticket dropped 8 points between 2020 and 2024. Muslim support dropped 49%. Black support for Harris dropped as well, even if it was mostly among men. And I’m just going by exit polls; I’m not even counting the people who stopped showing up.
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Fucking what? “Fascist propaganda worked in this election, therefore, supporting genocide is okay”?
Oh. Or are you one of those people who are still saying “You LIBS are just fearmongering!” about Trump?
Sorry that you think supporting fascism is okay if you’re only a small part of the support.
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we’ve reached the racist, “savior,” trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason. Sorry that minorities being people is such a radical idea for you. If you get me a pedestal, I can stand on it for you to worship me.
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities. I pointed out that people voting against their interest means nothing. Sorry that that was too complex for you to parse.
Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
Anyway, good luck mulling that stuff over, Pug.
It’s framing them as victims to say that propaganda works?
Do you… do you think that I believe that left-abstainers flipped a coin one morning and decided to go against their stated principles?
Okay. And?
Again, saying that propaganda works means nothing. “Jews for Hitler” didn’t mean that Nazi voters and apathetic-abstainers weren’t betraying Jewish folk by letting the Nazis into power, and that Nazi voters were betraying Jewish folk wouldn’t have changed if “Jews for Hitler” were one million voters strong instead of one hundred strong.
… and you think, then, that enabling this person who’s going to get large amounts of minorities killed who otherwise would not be is… what?
Some kind of service to us?
First and foremost, it says that many people, across all demographics, are fascists or indifferent to fascists.
That Dems are incompetent is true, but hardly the core problem; 2/3s of the country is okay with fascism.
If the only two people running are Mr. Magoo and Adolf Hitler, and a voter thinks it’s acceptable to let Hitler win, that voter is a fascist or a fascist enabler. End of. And that is not some minor thing, some little oopsie, but a major problem.
What if they’d been subjected to a “Fascist propaganda” campaign, as you called it?