They’re still allegations correct?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
If he is convicted, there will be punishments. Destroying a person’s legacy before due process needs to stop.
If it were one allegation then sure, but there are over 5 allegations of people that have been confirmed to be close to him and from what I remember Gaiman basically confirmed he slept with his caretaker on her first day (he claimed it was consensual but she explained in thorough detail that he took advantage of her). Read up on the stories, they’re morbid.
As someone that read the stories, they’re just that.
The truth is the TERFs wanted to punish gaiman for advocating for trans rights. And they won. Anyone English and famous simply cannot advocate for trans rights, otherwise terf island does their best to ruin them.
Hate to break it to you, but stories aren’t evidence. They’re stories. Morbid or not, bad or not, until someone has their day in court, we’re supposed to presume them innocent. I’m not saying we can’t have opinions, but acting on those opinions is dubious at best.
This does not mean we dismiss the accuser. They deserve to have their day in court, to give their evidence and have their claims taken seriously at every step of the way.
Hitler died before he could be tried. Does that mean he is presumed innocent?
Trick question, you’re falling for semantics. “Innocent until proven guilty” really is “legally-innocent until court-proven legally-guilty”, which is the only avenue the state has to imprison someone.
What it doesn’t mean is “you’re not allowed to have an opinion and/or act on it until the accused has gone to court”. The court of public opinion works independently from the court of stuffy judges in wigs. Sometimes it’s wrong, but that doesn’t mean it’s always wrong nor that it shouldn’t exist. OTOH the legal courts very often fall short of delivering a verdict for a bunch of reasons, many quite bad (victims don’t want to relive their traumas for months, cops are uncooperative, court system is backed up, legal definition of rape is unprovable, etc.).
This would be a salient point if Gaiman was being thrown in prison. Any business entity he has dealings with is absolutely free to say “we don’t want to be associated with someone who has been accused.”
That only applies to the fucking legal system. Everyone else only has the obligation to use their best judgement. The legal system can put you in jail so it has a higher standard. Being accused of crimes is not a protected status.
They’re still allegations correct? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? If he is convicted, there will be punishments. Destroying a person’s legacy before due process needs to stop.
If it were one allegation then sure, but there are over 5 allegations of people that have been confirmed to be close to him and from what I remember Gaiman basically confirmed he slept with his caretaker on her first day (he claimed it was consensual but she explained in thorough detail that he took advantage of her). Read up on the stories, they’re morbid.
And Darkhorse has bailed on him. That is huge.
Also everything about the way he treated Amanda Palmer post marriage is just disappointed sigh inducing.
As someone that read the stories, they’re just that.
The truth is the TERFs wanted to punish gaiman for advocating for trans rights. And they won. Anyone English and famous simply cannot advocate for trans rights, otherwise terf island does their best to ruin them.
Hate to break it to you, but stories aren’t evidence. They’re stories. Morbid or not, bad or not, until someone has their day in court, we’re supposed to presume them innocent. I’m not saying we can’t have opinions, but acting on those opinions is dubious at best.
This does not mean we dismiss the accuser. They deserve to have their day in court, to give their evidence and have their claims taken seriously at every step of the way.
The two things are not mutually exclusive.
Hitler died before he could be tried. Does that mean he is presumed innocent?
Trick question, you’re falling for semantics. “Innocent until proven guilty” really is “legally-innocent until court-proven legally-guilty”, which is the only avenue the state has to imprison someone.
What it doesn’t mean is “you’re not allowed to have an opinion and/or act on it until the accused has gone to court”. The court of public opinion works independently from the court of stuffy judges in wigs. Sometimes it’s wrong, but that doesn’t mean it’s always wrong nor that it shouldn’t exist. OTOH the legal courts very often fall short of delivering a verdict for a bunch of reasons, many quite bad (victims don’t want to relive their traumas for months, cops are uncooperative, court system is backed up, legal definition of rape is unprovable, etc.).
This would be a salient point if Gaiman was being thrown in prison. Any business entity he has dealings with is absolutely free to say “we don’t want to be associated with someone who has been accused.”
Lol. The Netflix marketing department isn’t a courthouse. Deal with it.
That only applies to the fucking legal system. Everyone else only has the obligation to use their best judgement. The legal system can put you in jail so it has a higher standard. Being accused of crimes is not a protected status.
Yup, people seem to forget that the entire concept of justice requires a presumption of innocence.