There’s zero indication that OP is ordering delivery often, so I’m not sure why you have jumped to that conclusion?
Besides, whether or not ordering delivery often depends on what you’re ordering and on your disposable income. McDonald’s is far from the only option, plenty of real restaurants offer delivery too these days. If you can afford it, you can probably eat a fairly healthy diet even if you never cook. Not for me, in no small part because I usually enjoy cooking, but I’m not gonna judge people who don’t. Doesn’t affect me, I’m not gonna go out of my way to be annoyed.
My post was in no way attacking OP. I was just soapboxing about food delivery services that charge insane fees for something which, in my opinion, is mostly useless.
I fully admit I’m being judgmental. And people are free to disagree with me.
So I don’t really understand why you are paying so much for food?
Looking at the local delivery app, I just now chose a “big Mac mcmenue” containing a big Mac, fries and a 0.5l drink. This would cost me 10,89€, let’s say 13€ with a very generous tip.
At this moment it seems 13€ are worth $13,48. What are you ordering that costs more than double of that?
Almost everyone on uber eats (and similar services) mark up their items. This sausage burrito meal is $10 on uber eats and is 8 something in store
Delivery fee 5.99
tip (whatever you want to pay)
For a normal meal this will more than double the price. Order just about anything else and you’re easily at $30 with still almost half the price being the delivery.
As an American, I can tell you it’s true, and we don’t realize it in large part because portion sizes in the US are crazy. A medium-sized beverage here would be a large in most other countries. Restaurants traditionally serve huge portions of food, supposedly originally so that no matter how big your appetite, everybody would get enough to eat and have leftovers to bring home. But now people just eat it all.
Add in all the sugar that’s in our food (thanks to a health propaganda campaign that convinced people fat was bad, most fat is replaced with sugar - especially high-fructose corn syrup), which is way more fattening than actual fat, and the lack of pedestrian access to most things, and you’ve got a perfect recipe for an obesity epidemic of people who eat too much, drink too many sugary drinks, and don’t exercise enough.
I actually order way too much, but it costs like 2 euros to get it delivered with a 5€/month subscription. My time is worth roughly an euro per minute. Anything farther than a 5 minute walk is a net loss to pick up on foot. There’s nothing closer than a 30 minute walk there and back. Car also takes fuel to get started
If delivery starts costing me 10 or 20 euros, I’ll start walking or driving to pick up my food.
I’m happy that you are physically able, that you have places within walking distance to pick the food up from, or if not that you own a vehicle and are not vision impaired or afflicted with some other ailment that would make driving impossible. I hope you reflect on how fortunate you are.
My point was that most people are able to procure their own food without paying exorbitant fees for it; in their case, I consider it lazy and wasteful. That’s also my opinion, and people are free to apply their own judgement.
It was a completely reasonable take and everyone understood what you meant.
Only on lemmy would someone try to paint an exploitative middleman like UberEats as a noble service for those unable to journey to the store.
There are actually services that do that and they don’t charge a 30% markup. That actually seems even more exploitative and you’d think the other commenter would be enraged at Uber.
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I’m happy that you are physically able, that you have places within walking distance to pick the food up from, or if not that you own a vehicle and are not vision impaired or afflicted with some other ailment that would make driving impossible
The implication being that thankfully for UberEats people who aren’t physically able, don’t have places within walking distance, don’t own a vehicle, or are vision impaired or afflicted with some other ailment that makes driving impossible, they can get their food delivered.
UberEats is a cancer and honestly, everyone I’ve known who’s disabled or on a fixed income in some way couldn’t afford the insane markup.
That’s not at all what I implied or meant but thank you for assuming I’m the worst person ever for pushing back against someone being proud they can just get off their ass and pick up food.
Yes, Uber Eats is a cancer but I’ve known people to count down to the cents so their account won’t be overdrawn so that they can order one hot meal delivered. Yes I absolutely think it is in the monetization plans of all the delivery apps to take advantage of people in that situation, I was just trying to point out “get off your ass and pick it up” isn’t a viable option for everyone. Also, not everyone is the best at math or managing their money.
Alcohol isn’t the only thing you can get a DUI for…there are lots of things that it covers from prescription medication to weed. Anything that negatively impacts your driving ability can potentially lead to a DUI.
I’ll take “this dumbfuck has never had to use a prescription in their life” for $500, Alex.
Oh look it’s the daily double!
I’ll take “medications can have various strengths of side effects, especially in the first few hours of taking them, and thus many need to be taken at home on a strict schedule, often before or with a meal, immediately when waking up, going to sleep… and it is very common for drugs to say not to operate a vehicle or machinery after taking and/or until you know how your body reacts”
Again, how many people does that affect in relation to food delivery?
Hardly any of your statements make any sense. Are you honestly suggesting that people order food specifically to maintain their medications schedule for medication that has to be taken with food? Really?
Do you really for real think that all these people are physically unable to have, well, a fridge? That’s absurd.
You’re trying to justify being drunk. Maybe that’s why you’re so angry.
Shopping schedule? Bro life is hard and busy, plenty of people are struggling with all kinds of issues that they can’t easily schedule around and depression is it’s own beast.
Look, I don’t order food because of the price and because I don’t want to support that fucked up business model(also because I live in a walkable city) but, and I mean this in the most “I hope you take this as an opportunity to reflect” kinda way, go fuck off with that shit.
“I’m the ideal human who never has to think about other people’s situations, struggles, or addictions. Everyone should be like me, just stop being stupid! Duh!” --this fucker
Like yeah, theoretically one shouldn’t prioritize drinking or whatever over resources to sustain one’s self. But theoretically, people also aren’t massive shits to each another.
It is not that easy for everyone. I for example can’t afford a car. And restaurants aren’t exactly around the corner. So if i want to get food like that, i have to have it delivered.
5 euros is cheaper for delivery than 15 for a train ticket. Its not that big of a deal honestly. I don’t know the pricing in america but its not to bad where i live. The food itself is becoming way to expensive though.
I only order food a few times a year so its no problem.
It’s significantly different in America. I think doordash has different payment structures in Europe bcos of laws whereas, in most of America, drivers are paid next to nothing. It’s like tipping culture with American service workers, except way worse.
So like, inflated prices (set by the restaurant and optional, but often done to make up for doordash’s cut) + delivery fee (pocketed by doordash of course!) + ridiculous tip bcos now I gotta pay this driver’s livable wage.
Door dash really is an unsustainable business. It’s probably gonna tank in the next 5 years, I’d bet.
I feel so too, you get more for the same money. But getting stuff delivered has its place in situations where you for some reason don’t have the energy.
I figured out how to get my food with NO delivery fee: I get off my fat ass and get it myself. Novel approach, I know.
And sometimes you’re too tired for that or want something you can’t reasonably make at home. There’s nothing wrong with ordering food.
Nothing wrong with it rarely or if you’re disabled, but paying $30 for McDonald’s or whatever on a regular basis is insane
There’s zero indication that OP is ordering delivery often, so I’m not sure why you have jumped to that conclusion?
Besides, whether or not ordering delivery often depends on what you’re ordering and on your disposable income. McDonald’s is far from the only option, plenty of real restaurants offer delivery too these days. If you can afford it, you can probably eat a fairly healthy diet even if you never cook. Not for me, in no small part because I usually enjoy cooking, but I’m not gonna judge people who don’t. Doesn’t affect me, I’m not gonna go out of my way to be annoyed.
My post was in no way attacking OP. I was just soapboxing about food delivery services that charge insane fees for something which, in my opinion, is mostly useless.
I fully admit I’m being judgmental. And people are free to disagree with me.
So I don’t really understand why you are paying so much for food? Looking at the local delivery app, I just now chose a “big Mac mcmenue” containing a big Mac, fries and a 0.5l drink. This would cost me 10,89€, let’s say 13€ with a very generous tip.
At this moment it seems 13€ are worth $13,48. What are you ordering that costs more than double of that?
Almost everyone on uber eats (and similar services) mark up their items. This sausage burrito meal is $10 on uber eats and is 8 something in store
Delivery fee 5.99
tip (whatever you want to pay)
For a normal meal this will more than double the price. Order just about anything else and you’re easily at $30 with still almost half the price being the delivery.
That’s crazy
Not everyone is ordering for a single person.
Two Big Mac Menus? And some chicken nuggets.
So people in the USA just eat a lot?
Another stereotype confirmed I guess
Food was cheap for a long time, and mental healthcare is prohibitively expensive.
Much more financially responsible to eat one’s feelings.
I know some in Europe as well. A colleague from work regularly eats a large menu with an additional burger and chicken nuggets for lunch.
Sorry mate, it’s just the Americans that are fat
As an American, I can tell you it’s true, and we don’t realize it in large part because portion sizes in the US are crazy. A medium-sized beverage here would be a large in most other countries. Restaurants traditionally serve huge portions of food, supposedly originally so that no matter how big your appetite, everybody would get enough to eat and have leftovers to bring home. But now people just eat it all.
Add in all the sugar that’s in our food (thanks to a health propaganda campaign that convinced people fat was bad, most fat is replaced with sugar - especially high-fructose corn syrup), which is way more fattening than actual fat, and the lack of pedestrian access to most things, and you’ve got a perfect recipe for an obesity epidemic of people who eat too much, drink too many sugary drinks, and don’t exercise enough.
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“Nothing wrong with ordering food” - correct
But there is something wrong with paying double to have it delivered - it’s called wasting money. Do y’all have a lot of money to waste?
I actually order way too much, but it costs like 2 euros to get it delivered with a 5€/month subscription. My time is worth roughly an euro per minute. Anything farther than a 5 minute walk is a net loss to pick up on foot. There’s nothing closer than a 30 minute walk there and back. Car also takes fuel to get started
If delivery starts costing me 10 or 20 euros, I’ll start walking or driving to pick up my food.
I’d rather “waste” some money instead of my time picking it up … or even worse, shopping and cooking.
How would they complain that everything is way too expensive nowadays if they didn’t?
there’s nothing wrong with it but it’s a luxury service so you shouldn’t complain about it being expensive
I’m happy that you are physically able, that you have places within walking distance to pick the food up from, or if not that you own a vehicle and are not vision impaired or afflicted with some other ailment that would make driving impossible. I hope you reflect on how fortunate you are.
I do, all the time.
My point was that most people are able to procure their own food without paying exorbitant fees for it; in their case, I consider it lazy and wasteful. That’s also my opinion, and people are free to apply their own judgement.
It was a completely reasonable take and everyone understood what you meant.
Only on lemmy would someone try to paint an exploitative middleman like UberEats as a noble service for those unable to journey to the store.
There are actually services that do that and they don’t charge a 30% markup. That actually seems even more exploitative and you’d think the other commenter would be enraged at Uber.
Such is the price for a popular top-level comment. I suffer so that those who must always be the contrarian can satisfy their unrelenting urges. Today, it is my internet cross to bear.
How exactly did I attempt to paint Uber Eats (who is absolutely an exploitative middleperson) as a “noble service?”
The implication being that thankfully for UberEats people who aren’t physically able, don’t have places within walking distance, don’t own a vehicle, or are vision impaired or afflicted with some other ailment that makes driving impossible, they can get their food delivered.
UberEats is a cancer and honestly, everyone I’ve known who’s disabled or on a fixed income in some way couldn’t afford the insane markup.
That’s not at all what I implied or meant but thank you for assuming I’m the worst person ever for pushing back against someone being proud they can just get off their ass and pick up food.
Yes, Uber Eats is a cancer but I’ve known people to count down to the cents so their account won’t be overdrawn so that they can order one hot meal delivered. Yes I absolutely think it is in the monetization plans of all the delivery apps to take advantage of people in that situation, I was just trying to point out “get off your ass and pick it up” isn’t a viable option for everyone. Also, not everyone is the best at math or managing their money.
Jesus christ. When you piss does it come out like a corkscrew?
DoorDash is a hell of a lot cheaper than catching a DUI charge tho
Normal people have a stocked fridge and are not constantly drunk.
If being drunk seriously affects your shopping schedule, you have an alcohol problem.
Alcohol isn’t the only thing you can get a DUI for…there are lots of things that it covers from prescription medication to weed. Anything that negatively impacts your driving ability can potentially lead to a DUI.
And you really think so many people are on these medications that they make up a serious percentage of the market share?
How do all those people get to work on their medication?
There are a lot of medication you really shouldn’t drive on, it’s a common side effect, so probably hundreds of thousands if not in the millions
Buses, Uber, Family/Friends, medication timing (eg not taking until you get to work and not taking the next dose till after), WFH jobs
Or, you know, driving under the influence.
Who mentioned market share?
I’ll take “this dumbfuck has never had to use a prescription in their life” for $500, Alex.
Oh look it’s the daily double!
I’ll take “medications can have various strengths of side effects, especially in the first few hours of taking them, and thus many need to be taken at home on a strict schedule, often before or with a meal, immediately when waking up, going to sleep… and it is very common for drugs to say not to operate a vehicle or machinery after taking and/or until you know how your body reacts”
They should really shorten that category, phew
Again, how many people does that affect in relation to food delivery?
Hardly any of your statements make any sense. Are you honestly suggesting that people order food specifically to maintain their medications schedule for medication that has to be taken with food? Really?
Do you really for real think that all these people are physically unable to have, well, a fridge? That’s absurd.
You’re trying to justify being drunk. Maybe that’s why you’re so angry.
Lots. I am one of them. Several members of my family also take meds that can impair driving.
Wtf does taking medication have to do with being drunk?
Do your own research before you make a bigger idiot out of yourself. It’s not the job of others to educate you.
Shopping schedule? Bro life is hard and busy, plenty of people are struggling with all kinds of issues that they can’t easily schedule around and depression is it’s own beast.
Look, I don’t order food because of the price and because I don’t want to support that fucked up business model(also because I live in a walkable city) but, and I mean this in the most “I hope you take this as an opportunity to reflect” kinda way, go fuck off with that shit.
Ah yes. You have the time to sit around and get wasted but life is too busy for you to go to the store.
👍
Fuck you for telling people what to do with their time.
“I’m the ideal human who never has to think about other people’s situations, struggles, or addictions. Everyone should be like me, just stop being stupid! Duh!” --this fucker
Like yeah, theoretically one shouldn’t prioritize drinking or whatever over resources to sustain one’s self. But theoretically, people also aren’t massive shits to each another.
Walk a mile in their shoes or shut the fuck up.
Pull your shit together man
I’m good, just defending others
How’s it look from that high horse you’re on?
Sober.
Yeah, but the DUI also buys you 3 meals a day for 6 months or so.
Me who is physically disabled and can’t leave my house: 👁️👄👁️
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16489196
In digest form, I presume?
But the entire point of having it delivered is so you can keep sitting on it.
It is not that easy for everyone. I for example can’t afford a car. And restaurants aren’t exactly around the corner. So if i want to get food like that, i have to have it delivered.
What about public transport?
5 euros is cheaper for delivery than 15 for a train ticket. Its not that big of a deal honestly. I don’t know the pricing in america but its not to bad where i live. The food itself is becoming way to expensive though.
I only order food a few times a year so its no problem.
It’s significantly different in America. I think doordash has different payment structures in Europe bcos of laws whereas, in most of America, drivers are paid next to nothing. It’s like tipping culture with American service workers, except way worse.
So like, inflated prices (set by the restaurant and optional, but often done to make up for doordash’s cut) + delivery fee (pocketed by doordash of course!) + ridiculous tip bcos now I gotta pay this driver’s livable wage.
Door dash really is an unsustainable business. It’s probably gonna tank in the next 5 years, I’d bet.
How about, you know, a grocery store?
Genius! Never thought about that!.. I order food maybe 2-3 times a year. What makes you think i exclusively order food?
If I’m bothering to go out anyway I’ll just get ingredients from the store and do it myself.
From one extreme to the next. Interesting.
That’s just for cases where I’m bothering to go grocery shopping anyway. Sometimes I’m just too tired or lazy and then I’m ordering food.
An even better idea.
I feel so too, you get more for the same money. But getting stuff delivered has its place in situations where you for some reason don’t have the energy.