This talking point only reveals your own ignorance of the sport. Which is fine, nobody needs to know or enjoy football. But having an ignorant take to complain about what someone else enjoys just shows that’s there’s a good chance you don’t care and only want to complain about something you don’t enjoy.
People have been saying that to me for years – often angrily – but honestly, every game I’ve ever seen has been like 5 minutes of game during which a guy touches another guy the wrong way, followed by a foul or something, then at least a half hour of back-to-back replays interspersed with a few guys debating every aspect of the way each guy touched another guy, plus at least ten minutes of advertising, then repeat.
I’m pretty sure even fans wouldn’t disagree with my timing breakdown.
eta: it sounds annoying broken down like that, but I’d argue fans should be annoyed at the industry, rather than at non-fans.
Maybe you shouldn’t argue about people having ignorant takes when you don’t bother to read what other people say and just declare them to be non-fans as if that gives them no right to say anything negative about the game.
As a non sports ball enjoyer I’m curious, why is this is not a bad thing? Like, I have no dog in this fight. I don’t dislike football or any other sport, I’ve just never found any joy in watching sports on TV. Occasionally it’s fun to go to a game, and it’s very fun to participate in one (never played football, but have played baseball, softball, kickball, and played soccer twice), but watching it on TV has never been fun for me. So, as someone (I assume) who enjoys watching a game on TV, why/why not is a chart like above not demonstrating a negative? I’ve never really been able to pinpoint why I don’t enjoy watching sports, and when I saw the chart my first thought was “oh, is that why I don’t like watching football?”
I can definitely see the presentation of football being off putting. I think the biggest thing is that chart is the description of shots of players just standing around. During that time there is strategy happening. Where someone lines up, how then other side responds and the back and forth from there represent the “grand strategy” of the game. If you’re into it, this can be a very compelling part. It’s an important part of the game that establishes and ebb ad flow and gives you a chance to try to figure out the strategies and where things are heading, I’m always wrong :). Outside of that part, that “dead air” I think helps generate a lot of the communal aspect of watching it. It’s a time for folks to chat about what’s happening in the game, debate about what a catch is, grab some snacks, and chat about other things.
Imagine something like chess, even less time with “action,” at least is some game types. But it can still hold the attention and interest of the people watching. If someone were to walk in with no knowledge they would probably wonder why there’s all this downtime and how could anyone enjoy it. Not sure if that’s the best metaphor but it’s what I’ve got at the moment.
It really is just somebody without interest or knowledge of someone’s activity then coming in to mock. Just makes it seem like they’re trying to be superior and yuck someone else’s yum.
Hope that answered at least some of what you were asking and makes some level of sense :)
ETA: Ads suck. Finding more ways to inject advertising sucks. Doing Picture in Picture ads sucks. You will not find me disagreeing with that aspect in any way ;)
I’m in the EU, and I don’t really watch American football or European footbal (soccer) anymore, but I definitely think NFL is much more interesting.
If we made the chart above for soccer, it would be 60% “players running around”, and then the match ends with a 1:0 (if sou’re lucky). I foud it very boring.
I feel you. Some of the best games in baseball are the pitcher duels. As my kids and wife put it, we just paid a bunch of money to see grown professionals play catch until someone finally hit a homerun.
There’s always a game within a game and if you don’t follow or know… it’s boring.
This talking point only reveals your own ignorance of the sport. Which is fine, nobody needs to know or enjoy football. But having an ignorant take to complain about what someone else enjoys just shows that’s there’s a good chance you don’t care and only want to complain about something you don’t enjoy.
People have been saying that to me for years – often angrily – but honestly, every game I’ve ever seen has been like 5 minutes of game during which a guy touches another guy the wrong way, followed by a foul or something, then at least a half hour of back-to-back replays interspersed with a few guys debating every aspect of the way each guy touched another guy, plus at least ten minutes of advertising, then repeat.
I’m pretty sure even fans wouldn’t disagree with my timing breakdown.
eta: it sounds annoying broken down like that, but I’d argue fans should be annoyed at the industry, rather than at non-fans.
Cool. You don’t like to watch football.
Maybe you shouldn’t argue about people having ignorant takes when you don’t bother to read what other people say and just declare them to be non-fans as if that gives them no right to say anything negative about the game.
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…says the person who came here to attack anyone who dares criticize a sport they like.
How about stopping since you’re already dangerously close to violating rule 1?
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You think you’re on Reddit right now? Because this is not Reddit. Thank god for that too.
I think I’ll also give you one last warning about not violating rule 1 since you seem to think you’re immune to it.
You wouldn’t know it wasn’t reddit by the way some of the asshole mods act though.
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As a non sports ball enjoyer I’m curious, why is this is not a bad thing? Like, I have no dog in this fight. I don’t dislike football or any other sport, I’ve just never found any joy in watching sports on TV. Occasionally it’s fun to go to a game, and it’s very fun to participate in one (never played football, but have played baseball, softball, kickball, and played soccer twice), but watching it on TV has never been fun for me. So, as someone (I assume) who enjoys watching a game on TV, why/why not is a chart like above not demonstrating a negative? I’ve never really been able to pinpoint why I don’t enjoy watching sports, and when I saw the chart my first thought was “oh, is that why I don’t like watching football?”
I can definitely see the presentation of football being off putting. I think the biggest thing is that chart is the description of shots of players just standing around. During that time there is strategy happening. Where someone lines up, how then other side responds and the back and forth from there represent the “grand strategy” of the game. If you’re into it, this can be a very compelling part. It’s an important part of the game that establishes and ebb ad flow and gives you a chance to try to figure out the strategies and where things are heading, I’m always wrong :). Outside of that part, that “dead air” I think helps generate a lot of the communal aspect of watching it. It’s a time for folks to chat about what’s happening in the game, debate about what a catch is, grab some snacks, and chat about other things.
Imagine something like chess, even less time with “action,” at least is some game types. But it can still hold the attention and interest of the people watching. If someone were to walk in with no knowledge they would probably wonder why there’s all this downtime and how could anyone enjoy it. Not sure if that’s the best metaphor but it’s what I’ve got at the moment.
It really is just somebody without interest or knowledge of someone’s activity then coming in to mock. Just makes it seem like they’re trying to be superior and yuck someone else’s yum.
Hope that answered at least some of what you were asking and makes some level of sense :)
ETA: Ads suck. Finding more ways to inject advertising sucks. Doing Picture in Picture ads sucks. You will not find me disagreeing with that aspect in any way ;)
I’m in the EU, and I don’t really watch American football or European footbal (soccer) anymore, but I definitely think NFL is much more interesting.
If we made the chart above for soccer, it would be 60% “players running around”, and then the match ends with a 1:0 (if sou’re lucky). I foud it very boring.
I feel you. Some of the best games in baseball are the pitcher duels. As my kids and wife put it, we just paid a bunch of money to see grown professionals play catch until someone finally hit a homerun.
There’s always a game within a game and if you don’t follow or know… it’s boring.
Revealed my what?
Haha, I was overdramatic, sorry bout that!