I just browsed all which I rarely do, but the whole scaled feed was filled with nsfw posts from lemmit.online. What’s up with this instance? It seems they repost everything from reddit to their own instance? It really feels like those instances should be defederated but I at least blocked it myself.
Even if it’s futile, I probably still won’t be able to keep my mouth shut about it lol. I do enough keeping my mouth shut in the real world, in a country where you have to assume that everyone you meet has conservative views until proven otherwise. So I’m not going to do that to myself online as well. It just feels wrong to me to not at least try when there’s an injustice going on because the easiest way for nothing to change is for no one to even try and change things.
And you’re right, things are at least better for amateur workers now than they were before. So that is progress. Although from what I’ve gathered, OnlyFans isn’t completely immune to dodgy shit either. I’ve come across a couple of stories involving practically human trafficking situations where women are forced into this by pimps and other pieces of shit. So you never really know what’s going on behind the scenes when the camera switches off and the put on smile goes away.
Which is why it’s also just more ethical to get this content from the content creators themselves rather than random 3rd party websites that lift content from elsewhere. At least if you’re getting it from the source, you can have some sense of whether it passes the vibe check or not.
Also, just want to add because I just thought of it. Places that set up bots that lift amateur content from around the web aren’t checking for vibes or doing their homework. So they’re the kinds of places that would be peddling pictures of abuse or trafficking victims, or even underage people, without even knowing it. Or caring.
The whole thing just gives me the creeps. I’m fine with people stealing from Brazzers or whatever because those workers have already been paid and you’re stealing from the suits that get rich off them. But amateur stuff just has too many variables and ethical concerns for me to be comfortable with people treating it the same way as Brazzers.
Thanks for the nice conversation, btw. I’ve learned a few things. Yeah, and some things you said just reinforce what I’ve already read elsewhere. And I also think it’s a shame that the entire field is more often that not connected with bad working conditions, and it’s hard to change due to the very nature of it. Plus it’s an extra shame that organized crime has ties. And they won’t let go, no matter what. From what I’ve read it’s even worse in other parts of the world. And that’s kind of always the case with the internet, since it spans across the globe.
But sure, I wholeheartedly agree. It’s an entirely different story whether you rip off some faceless large (and rich) company. Or do the very same thing to an amateur, or your neighbour. I think that’s not controversial. I also know lots of people who are less concerned with pirating like Hollywood movies or AAA games, but they won’t do the same to an indie game developer or something like that. But it requires some amount of thinking and awareness…
And circling back to the topic at hand… Does anyone know the admin of that instance, or operator of the bot? Maybe they’re just oblivious to the fact, yet willing to learn? We could request the amateur communities to be removed from the bot. If someone compiles a list. Or just ask them whether they’re willing to do it, before investing the effort. I’m not sure if I’m the right person for that, since I have close to no knowledge about the details. And I’m still not convinced of the importance of that specific instance, since all the posts there have zero engagement and upvotes, and it seems to me like people already voted with their feet.
Edit: Nevermind, I’ve asked to remove them: https://lemmit.online/post/5153024
Likewise. It’s always appreciated when you can chat with someone without guards up and needing to counter snark and shit.
I get this bad feeling that they’re probably just going to tell you to get lost. I wouldn’t be surprised if the moderators of those subs have okayed it. Another common thing I saw creators complaining about was dodgy Reddit moderators. The moderators of those subs aren’t their friends or allies from what I can tell. If they’re not the usual assortment on Reddit who aren’t even part of the community but like power anyway, there’s also suspected ‘agencies’ or other bad actors running some of these subs and making life hard for people.
But I applaud you for doing this. And I would be amazed if it actually worked.