Dude. From someone else with too many acronyms, you have got to stop borrowing trouble. We have enough.
The Democrats seem like captured opposition because their center of power is a faction of the wealthy elite. Like the Republicans they pass quite a few things meant to help their large scale donors. But there’s a pretty big gap between Biden’s status quo neglect of the working class and Trump’s active attempts to screw us. There’s also conservative Democrats, because as much as the parties use rhetoric to look like a united front, they are not. They have factions inside them. Their only motivation is to raise money, for which they must be seen to be worth the money. So they mostly worry about getting enough people elected to control parts of the government. This means that if they need to make deals with a conservative guy in Kansas to have him be a Democrat then that’s what they’ll do.
The good news about factions is that means there’s also socialist (ish) democrats in the party pushing to move everything to the left. But it’s important to understand the incentives of a political party. They need to deliver on enough promises to retain voters and donors. And those promises are absolutely at odds at times. Donors however tend to be better educated and positioned to keep an eye on politicians. While the voters can be deflected with headlines and empty executive orders that do nothing but give the president a briefing in 30 days. (Trump is using this trick too, many of his orders say “do x within legal limits and give me a report in 30 days”.)
I can understand why that seems like it’s a captured opposition but in reality we would hear about that. The Democrats are nowhere near unified enough to keep that kind of cooperation secret.
The election was not stolen. There are 50 different state election offices, 7 of which really mattered, 4 of which were run by Democrats, and 2 of which are somewhat fanatic about securing their elections after 2020. If there was any evidence that systems were hacked during the election we’d have large white papers flying around the Internet. Not hand waivey claims of possible interference because someone doesn’t like the numbers. We’d know the exact method of entry, and what they touched. To be clear this requires multiple states to completely fail to secure their systems, not just one state. And it requires their on staff security experts to remain quiet when their entire code of ethics is opposite to that. And it requires these separate groups to all keep a secret without even necessarily knowing each other. As we used to say in the Army, “I can’t even keep my soldiers from telling their Chinese AI girlfriend when and where our next mission is. There’s no way there’s a black helicopter organization out there.” The same principle applies here. It’s too many people with no ties to each other, in an industry built on outing organizations that have breaches or fail to patch vulnerabilities.
Unfortunately, consumerism is a huge deal. We elected Trump largely because of grocery prices. And keeping those prices low is the only thing many people care about. The best thing we can do is try to educate people so we’re ready in 2026 and 2028. Because Trump can’t stop the states from having elections without crossing the Rubicon and either fully taking power or causing massive civil unrest.
You’re convinced the system will save you even as those at the wheel brag about tearing it down. You’re part the problem.
The nv sos has sued. PA opened a case recently. Actually go to the site. Actually look at the statistically impossible conclusions and deal with the reality the election was stolen.
I’m not seeing anything on that page that is evidence of a breach. And no amount of searching turns up a lawsuit by the Nevada Secretary of State. In fact according to their third quarterly report they’re under the opinion they did a good job.
It’s very easy to throw numbers around with statistics. Which is why it’s so important to corroborate them or make sure they’re coming from a long-standing trustworthy institution. And a group founded in December who won’t even tell you who they are, is not it. For comparison here’s the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities page where you can see literally who they are. Here’s the page for the Economic Policy Institute.
You should be highly skeptical of random people throwing charts at you with little to no source citation.
So the problem with a Man in The Middle attack is the numbers won’t sync. And not on fancy charts. It’s like saying cashier drawer theft would go unnoticed because there’s no camera. When they count the drawer at the end of the night they’re going to know. When they get the hard copies of the ballots at the end of the night they’re going to know.
If you can actually review the above and honestly believe everything is A-OK… fuck, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not going to respond further, but those communities are just a handful of the resources cataloging the mask off moment of fascism in the US.
Even if you want to keep pretending the election was legitimate, what are the democrats doing to stop this? Hakeem Jefferies is actually complaining about the number of constituents telling him to defend democracy.
Trump is demonstrating the rule of law was always only meant for the poor. His horde is calling for the ‘removal’ of judges that are “corrupt” because they follow the law.
Okay so a video form of the same data I already looked at isn’t going to convince me any better. In order for the rest -
Auditing the 2024 election. Every swing state does an audit. They already do the simple thing the article admits would show a hack had occurred. Look up Post Election Audit.
One Amish guy’s friend is not data.
Trump, Musk, and Musk’s kid making comments are not evidence unless they say, “I changed the numbers in X state.”
And Gillibrand is a conservative Democrat. It’s absolutely possible for people to vote for her and Trump. Most people weren’t even aware of project 2025. In exit polling the biggest factor was the economy.
I’m going to say the thing I came here to say one more time. You are borrowing trouble you don’t need and isn’t real. Take a step back and actually look instead of going down the doomhole.
The first is to get gullible people to feel victimized telling them a version of the truth. Like this is the great reset they’ve been ranting about and their gullibility was instrumental in making it happen.
The second function is to legitimize CNN and MSNBC as actual news instead of just another layer of manufactured consent telling you how to feel about what you’re allowed to know as they sane wash the ransacking of democracy.
I can’t help if you don’t understand statistics, but I can appreciate scepticism. The short version is those results are basically impossible. They’re a scatter plot of precinct reporting as they came in. Basically what should be wholly independent data points that don’t rely on each other. However, reading left to right (time of report) you can see an obvious trend wherein results are increasingly for Trump as they come in as if there was a threshold being sought. A trend like that is basically impossible organically.
If that’s not enough, consider Walter Mondale. He lost in about the most historic defeat in modern American history… Yet he still managed to flip 30 counties across the country.
Kamala got more votes than Biden in some areas in an incredibly close race. Kamala didn’t flip a single county in the entire country. Not one.
This is also the first election in decades certified without Democrats filing a lawsuit somewhere.
You can rightly claim there are more liberal Democrats, but liberalism is basically just the gateway to fascism as capitalism has an intrinsic need to sabotage democracy in favor of ignorant workers that want tax cuts instead of worker protections and single payer health care.
AOC is one of the most progressive in Congress (still basically a centrist) and Pelosi fights from her death bed to keep AOC from having any kind of real power because the DNC and rnc are two privately owned corporations that control who gets on the ballot.
You have to look into the fact that Black Rock basically owns 80% of the banks and publicly traded companies and that whole thing operates with the consent of the ruling class for their benefit at our expense.
The end of days accelerationists have been putting people into government for decades. Actually read into the business plot and Smedly Butler.
As crazy as it fucking sounds, Elon Musk launch a few hundred low Earth satellites to jack voting tabulators owned by another psychotic billionaire with long standing reported vulnerabilities.
What do you think “the revolution will not be televised” means? The billionaires that donate to both sides own the media telling you what to think as you live though a fascist blitzkrieg for control of the most terrifying military in history.
That article tells me nothing. And yes I’m familiar with the idea of manufactured consent and the history of the business plot. That’s not really relevant to actual evidence of hacking. And star link isn’t a magical device. It’s basically a really powerful wifi router. You could just as easily accuse the cell towers or the ISP cable nodes. There’s no magic tech there to get into places unnoticed unless starlink is the only router it ever touches, and that’s not how any of that actually works.
Dude. From someone else with too many acronyms, you have got to stop borrowing trouble. We have enough.
The Democrats seem like captured opposition because their center of power is a faction of the wealthy elite. Like the Republicans they pass quite a few things meant to help their large scale donors. But there’s a pretty big gap between Biden’s status quo neglect of the working class and Trump’s active attempts to screw us. There’s also conservative Democrats, because as much as the parties use rhetoric to look like a united front, they are not. They have factions inside them. Their only motivation is to raise money, for which they must be seen to be worth the money. So they mostly worry about getting enough people elected to control parts of the government. This means that if they need to make deals with a conservative guy in Kansas to have him be a Democrat then that’s what they’ll do.
The good news about factions is that means there’s also socialist (ish) democrats in the party pushing to move everything to the left. But it’s important to understand the incentives of a political party. They need to deliver on enough promises to retain voters and donors. And those promises are absolutely at odds at times. Donors however tend to be better educated and positioned to keep an eye on politicians. While the voters can be deflected with headlines and empty executive orders that do nothing but give the president a briefing in 30 days. (Trump is using this trick too, many of his orders say “do x within legal limits and give me a report in 30 days”.)
I can understand why that seems like it’s a captured opposition but in reality we would hear about that. The Democrats are nowhere near unified enough to keep that kind of cooperation secret.
The election was not stolen. There are 50 different state election offices, 7 of which really mattered, 4 of which were run by Democrats, and 2 of which are somewhat fanatic about securing their elections after 2020. If there was any evidence that systems were hacked during the election we’d have large white papers flying around the Internet. Not hand waivey claims of possible interference because someone doesn’t like the numbers. We’d know the exact method of entry, and what they touched. To be clear this requires multiple states to completely fail to secure their systems, not just one state. And it requires their on staff security experts to remain quiet when their entire code of ethics is opposite to that. And it requires these separate groups to all keep a secret without even necessarily knowing each other. As we used to say in the Army, “I can’t even keep my soldiers from telling their Chinese AI girlfriend when and where our next mission is. There’s no way there’s a black helicopter organization out there.” The same principle applies here. It’s too many people with no ties to each other, in an industry built on outing organizations that have breaches or fail to patch vulnerabilities.
Unfortunately, consumerism is a huge deal. We elected Trump largely because of grocery prices. And keeping those prices low is the only thing many people care about. The best thing we can do is try to educate people so we’re ready in 2026 and 2028. Because Trump can’t stop the states from having elections without crossing the Rubicon and either fully taking power or causing massive civil unrest.
https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis
You’re convinced the system will save you even as those at the wheel brag about tearing it down. You’re part the problem.
The nv sos has sued. PA opened a case recently. Actually go to the site. Actually look at the statistically impossible conclusions and deal with the reality the election was stolen.
https://www.project2025.observer/
I’m not seeing anything on that page that is evidence of a breach. And no amount of searching turns up a lawsuit by the Nevada Secretary of State. In fact according to their third quarterly report they’re under the opinion they did a good job.
It’s very easy to throw numbers around with statistics. Which is why it’s so important to corroborate them or make sure they’re coming from a long-standing trustworthy institution. And a group founded in December who won’t even tell you who they are, is not it. For comparison here’s the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities page where you can see literally who they are. Here’s the page for the Economic Policy Institute.
You should be highly skeptical of random people throwing charts at you with little to no source citation.
I had to jump on my computer because the original was deleted, but here’s a few places to get started:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Whistleblowers/comments/1hlusjn/comment/m3pfe7b/
https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/Whistleblowers/comments/1hlusjn/_/#comment-info
https://substack.com/home/post/p-153003086
And I know it sounds ridiculous to read about the economy from a subreddit about a gamestock stop, this is pulled from SEC EDGAR filings and definitely worth review: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/owpfc3/will_the_real_gme_bbemg_please_stand_up_part_1/
So the problem with a Man in The Middle attack is the numbers won’t sync. And not on fancy charts. It’s like saying cashier drawer theft would go unnoticed because there’s no camera. When they count the drawer at the end of the night they’re going to know. When they get the hard copies of the ballots at the end of the night they’re going to know.
Except they’re not counting the drawer…
For a skeptic, you have a lot of faith the system functions like you’re told.
A partial count is a common and effective means of preventing exactly this problem. Every swing state does a Post Election Audit.
Watch this video of the breakdown of Clark County: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWwLDejg8Y
More detail about voting machines: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/why-we-should-still-audit-the-2024-presidential-election
PA Fuckery - https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/comments/1h2d7mf/whats_up_with_the_amish_vote_in_pa/
There are several videos available where Trump basically admits cheating before and after. https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiTrumpAlliance/comments/1icy544/trump_appears_to_admit_that_elon_musk_rigged_the/
Even Elon’s kid is bragging: https://www.reddit.com/r/ResistKleptocracy/comments/1hkbjr4/election_day_confessions_of_guilt/
What do you think the odds are that 907 people that voted for a Democrat Senator also voted for Trump? https://preview.redd.it/really-only-2-whole-people-in-all-of-precinct-ramapo-voted-v0-mzmhiqhe81ge1.png
If you can actually review the above and honestly believe everything is A-OK… fuck, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m not going to respond further, but those communities are just a handful of the resources cataloging the mask off moment of fascism in the US.
Even if you want to keep pretending the election was legitimate, what are the democrats doing to stop this? Hakeem Jefferies is actually complaining about the number of constituents telling him to defend democracy.
Trump is demonstrating the rule of law was always only meant for the poor. His horde is calling for the ‘removal’ of judges that are “corrupt” because they follow the law.
You’re either delusional or a concern troll.
Okay so a video form of the same data I already looked at isn’t going to convince me any better. In order for the rest -
Auditing the 2024 election. Every swing state does an audit. They already do the simple thing the article admits would show a hack had occurred. Look up Post Election Audit.
One Amish guy’s friend is not data.
Trump, Musk, and Musk’s kid making comments are not evidence unless they say, “I changed the numbers in X state.”
And Gillibrand is a conservative Democrat. It’s absolutely possible for people to vote for her and Trump. Most people weren’t even aware of project 2025. In exit polling the biggest factor was the economy.
I’m going to say the thing I came here to say one more time. You are borrowing trouble you don’t need and isn’t real. Take a step back and actually look instead of going down the doomhole.
https://www.kkoh.com/2025/01/21/nv-sos-launches-investigations-into-election-fraud/
Fox News serves two primary functions.
The first is to get gullible people to feel victimized telling them a version of the truth. Like this is the great reset they’ve been ranting about and their gullibility was instrumental in making it happen.
The second function is to legitimize CNN and MSNBC as actual news instead of just another layer of manufactured consent telling you how to feel about what you’re allowed to know as they sane wash the ransacking of democracy.
I can’t help if you don’t understand statistics, but I can appreciate scepticism. The short version is those results are basically impossible. They’re a scatter plot of precinct reporting as they came in. Basically what should be wholly independent data points that don’t rely on each other. However, reading left to right (time of report) you can see an obvious trend wherein results are increasingly for Trump as they come in as if there was a threshold being sought. A trend like that is basically impossible organically.
If that’s not enough, consider Walter Mondale. He lost in about the most historic defeat in modern American history… Yet he still managed to flip 30 counties across the country.
Kamala got more votes than Biden in some areas in an incredibly close race. Kamala didn’t flip a single county in the entire country. Not one.
This is also the first election in decades certified without Democrats filing a lawsuit somewhere.
You can rightly claim there are more liberal Democrats, but liberalism is basically just the gateway to fascism as capitalism has an intrinsic need to sabotage democracy in favor of ignorant workers that want tax cuts instead of worker protections and single payer health care.
AOC is one of the most progressive in Congress (still basically a centrist) and Pelosi fights from her death bed to keep AOC from having any kind of real power because the DNC and rnc are two privately owned corporations that control who gets on the ballot.
You have to look into the fact that Black Rock basically owns 80% of the banks and publicly traded companies and that whole thing operates with the consent of the ruling class for their benefit at our expense.
The end of days accelerationists have been putting people into government for decades. Actually read into the business plot and Smedly Butler.
As crazy as it fucking sounds, Elon Musk launch a few hundred low Earth satellites to jack voting tabulators owned by another psychotic billionaire with long standing reported vulnerabilities.
What do you think “the revolution will not be televised” means? The billionaires that donate to both sides own the media telling you what to think as you live though a fascist blitzkrieg for control of the most terrifying military in history.
That article tells me nothing. And yes I’m familiar with the idea of manufactured consent and the history of the business plot. That’s not really relevant to actual evidence of hacking. And star link isn’t a magical device. It’s basically a really powerful wifi router. You could just as easily accuse the cell towers or the ISP cable nodes. There’s no magic tech there to get into places unnoticed unless starlink is the only router it ever touches, and that’s not how any of that actually works.