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You’re making the entirely unfounded assumption that sexism was the cause for those women’s loss rather than them individually both being terrible candidates. And despite the Obama example showing you “racism exists, so only run white people” point is just completely bullshit. People literally made the same argument against Obama.
There were blaring warning signs that had absolutely nothing to do with sexism with both candidacies. Easy bad campaign choices and cultural movements that very easily explain the losses without diving into the dark heart of man, but somehow you just ignore those to focus on banning women and POC from running for pragmatism.
Whatever you believe about your non-racist internal beliefs, your actions are indistinguishable from racism. And I’m not sure you’ll ever think there’s an election so low stakes that we can select the best candidate if she’s a woman, because you don’t seem to have learned anything by the event that proved the whole philosophy as suspect.
My cousin told me yesterday that AOC isn’t left enough for her. That tells me that either we need a 3rd party, because clearly democrats are not even wanted by their own party. Or that women are extremely easy to make toxic. At the end of the day it’s a popularity contest and most people are not doing research. You will get put through the media spin cycle and people will choose to not like you because of your voice, or because you use too much head movement when you speak, or because their favorite comedian parroted a 10 sec tiktok clip about something you said on a social issue, or because of that one vote you made that one time. Women 100% get less leeway. Believing anything else is idealistic.
Run this exercise again like it’s 2008 and you’re taking about Barrack Obama’s blackness. People don’t want AOC to run because she’s just the next woman on the conveyer belt, they want her to run because she’s one of the best politicians in the Democratic party.
Sexism was a factor. Racism was a factor. As you know, surely? You do know that some people in america would say outright that they would never vote for anyone who wasn’t a cis man and would never vote for anyone who wasn’t white?
You’re saying that the proportion of those people who might have voted democrat is too small to matter. I disagree. I can’t remember exactly the proportions of the demographic which voted or didn’t vote for kamala but it was clear that more traditional voters (Hispanics were one subset maybe) weren’t voting for her exactly because she’s a woman.
Answer this - if the dems would have wanted to run a trans candidate, would you have said this was a viable candidate to win the presidency? I’m not asking if you would have personally supported them (assuming they were a decent person/tested politically etc, but could they have won?
No, not in america today. And that’s why taking the risk that a woman could win for the first time was a bad idea when the alternative was Donald trump and project 25, which is going to be a huge set back for anyone not a white cisman.
You’re making the entirely unfounded assumption that sexism was the cause for those women’s loss rather than them individually both being terrible candidates. And despite the Obama example showing you “racism exists, so only run white people” point is just completely bullshit. People literally made the same argument against Obama.
There were blaring warning signs that had absolutely nothing to do with sexism with both candidacies. Easy bad campaign choices and cultural movements that very easily explain the losses without diving into the dark heart of man, but somehow you just ignore those to focus on banning women and POC from running for pragmatism.
Whatever you believe about your non-racist internal beliefs, your actions are indistinguishable from racism. And I’m not sure you’ll ever think there’s an election so low stakes that we can select the best candidate if she’s a woman, because you don’t seem to have learned anything by the event that proved the whole philosophy as suspect.
My cousin told me yesterday that AOC isn’t left enough for her. That tells me that either we need a 3rd party, because clearly democrats are not even wanted by their own party. Or that women are extremely easy to make toxic. At the end of the day it’s a popularity contest and most people are not doing research. You will get put through the media spin cycle and people will choose to not like you because of your voice, or because you use too much head movement when you speak, or because their favorite comedian parroted a 10 sec tiktok clip about something you said on a social issue, or because of that one vote you made that one time. Women 100% get less leeway. Believing anything else is idealistic.
Run this exercise again like it’s 2008 and you’re taking about Barrack Obama’s blackness. People don’t want AOC to run because she’s just the next woman on the conveyer belt, they want her to run because she’s one of the best politicians in the Democratic party.
Sexism was a factor. Racism was a factor. As you know, surely? You do know that some people in america would say outright that they would never vote for anyone who wasn’t a cis man and would never vote for anyone who wasn’t white?
You’re saying that the proportion of those people who might have voted democrat is too small to matter. I disagree. I can’t remember exactly the proportions of the demographic which voted or didn’t vote for kamala but it was clear that more traditional voters (Hispanics were one subset maybe) weren’t voting for her exactly because she’s a woman.
Answer this - if the dems would have wanted to run a trans candidate, would you have said this was a viable candidate to win the presidency? I’m not asking if you would have personally supported them (assuming they were a decent person/tested politically etc, but could they have won?
No, not in america today. And that’s why taking the risk that a woman could win for the first time was a bad idea when the alternative was Donald trump and project 25, which is going to be a huge set back for anyone not a white cisman.