I posted this question on Reddit a while ago and it was an interesting discussion so I wanted to hear what Lemmings think.

It’s common for religious people to be against the above mentioned things due to their beliefs, but how common is it for atheists to be against them? What reasons would they have? How would they base their opinion if there was no belief system/religion to rely on?

I’m not trying to provoke or insult anybody with this question, and I don’t wish for people to hate on each other’s beliefs. I just think this is an interesting concept to think about.

  • @[email protected]
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    011 months ago

    What if you are 1 week away from birth of a fetus that is fully developed and healthily. Do you think aborting a fully developed baby should be acceptable at that stage?

    I am hard core pro choice but that example would be grotesque even to me. Obviously it is the most extreme example but I am sure if it was legal, someone would do it.

    Point being your black and white statement is not well thought out.

    • pizza-bagel
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      311 months ago

      That’s not how medical procedures work. You don’t get to go to the doctor and request whatever legal procedure you require on a whim. It’s a decision made between a doctor and patient, without the government involved. AT ANY STAGE. That is the point.

      Besides, do you really think someone is going to go through 8 months of pregnancy just to abort for funsies? That is “planned parenthood turns fetuses into chicken nuggets” level of delusion. You are really underestimating the physical toll taken on the body by pregnancy.

      If someone got to 8 months, and they go to their doctor and discover the fetus is going to be born only to suffer and die in their arms, the government should have 0 say on how that medical decision is handled. Which is what late term abortions actually are.

    • LemmyLefty
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      311 months ago

      An “abortion” at that gestational stage is induced labor.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 months ago

      I’ve been born to people who didn’t really want kids. I admit this colours my perceptive n greatly but yes I’d never condemn a new life to not being wanted/going into the foster system. The damage that you do to someone by not having a good caregiver is immense and I dearly dearly wish I had been aborted. I think it’s sad that so little of the debate centers around the needs of the child once it is born.

    • NeighborlyNomad
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      111 months ago

      I’d say there is no good reason for it not to be legal, even if it’s disgusting. Someone who waits that long shouldn’t expect there to necessarily be a doctor willing to perform the procedure for them though.

    • @BadAdvice
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      Hole is hole. If you don’t want it to come out, you have that right. At that point imo it’s kinda on the hospital to decide to save the baby. The woman has until birth to decide whether or not she can handle that responsibility. If the hospital is told to terminate a viable baby so close to birth, it’s down to the hospital to decide to go through with the termination or decide to deliver the baby themselves and accept the legal responsibility for that child. The mother has made her choice and that’s that.