• HEXN3T
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    13 hours ago

    Let’s compare two completely separate games to a game and a remaster.

    Generational leaps then:

    Good lord.

    EDIT: That isn’t even the Zero Dawn remaster. That is literally two still-image screenshots of Forbidden West on both platforms.

    Good. Lord.

    • @[email protected]
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      1911 hours ago

      Yeah no. You went from console to portable.

      We’ve had absolutely huge leaps in graphical ability. Denying that we’re getting diminishing returns now is just ridiculous.

      • HEXN3T
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        23 hours ago

        We’re still getting huge leaps. It simply doesn’t translate into massively improved graphics. What those leaps do result in, however, is major performance gains.

        I have played Horizon Zero Dawn, its remaster, and Forbidden West. I am reminded how much better Forbidden West looks and runs on PS5 compared to either version of Zero Dawn. The differences are absolutely there, it’s just not as spectacular as the jump from 2D to 3D.

        The post comes off like a criticism of hardware not getting better enough faster enough. Wait until we can create dirt, sand, water or snow simulations in real time, instead of having to fake the look of physics. Imagine real simulations of wind and heat.

        And then there’s gaussian splatting, which absolutely is a huge leap. Forget trees practically being arrangements of PNGs–what if each and every leaf and branch had volume? What if leaves actually fell off?

        Then there’s efficiency. What if you could run Monster Hunter Wilds at max graphics, on battery, for hours? The first gen M1 Max MacBook Pro can comfortably run Baldur’s Gate III. Reducing power draw would have immense benefits on top of graphical improvements.

        Combined with better and better storage and VR/AR, there is still plenty of room for tech to grow. Saying “diminishing returns” is like saying that fire burns you when you touch it.

        • @[email protected]
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          128 minutes ago

          I am reminded how much better Forbidden West looks and runs on PS5 compared to either version of Zero Dawn.

          Really? I’ve played both on PS5 and didn’t notice any real difference in performance or graphics. I did notice that the PC Version of Forbidden West has vastly higher minimum requirements though. Which is the opposite of performance gains.

          Who the fuck cares if leaves are actually falling off or spawning in above your screen to fall?

          And BG3 has notoriously low minimums, it is the exception, not the standard.

          If you want to see every dimple on the ass of a horse then that’s fine, build your expensive computer and leave the rest of us alone. Modern Next Gen Graphics aren’t adding anything to a game.

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      1010 hours ago

      The fact that the Game Boy Advance looks that much better than the Super Nintendo despite being a handheld, battery powered device is insane

        • Amon
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          11 hour ago

          Because most GBA games were meant to be desaturated due to the terrible screen

        • @[email protected]
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          710 hours ago

          There’s noticably more detail, especially along the coastline. Also, the more saturated colors improve contrast

          • HEXN3T
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            23 hours ago

            The GBA just has reworked art. The SNES could easily do the same thing.

    • HEXN3T
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      312 hours ago

      It is baffling to me that people hate cross gen games so much. Like, how awful for PS4 owners that don’t have to buy a new console to enjoy the game, and how awful for PS5 owners that the game runs at the same fidelity at over 60FPS, or significantly higher fidelity at the same frame rate.

      They should have made the PS4 version the only one. Better yet, we should never make consoles again because they can’t make you comprehend four dimensions to be new enough.

      • @[email protected]
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        1211 hours ago

        The point isn’t about cross generation games. It’s about graphics not actually getting better anymore unless you turn your computer into a space heater rated for Antarctica.

        • HEXN3T
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          13 hours ago

          It’s a pointless point. Complain about power draw. Push ARM.

          • @[email protected]
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            126 minutes ago

            ARM isn’t going to magically make GPUs need less brute force energy in badly optimized games.