Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.
I’m not American but wouldn’t that mean Vance becomes president? It’s tempting to think he couldn’t be any worse, but trump likes the fucker so who knows?
The main benefit of it is a lot of the MAGA movement will wither with him gone. Someone will be a successor to it, but I don’t think anyone is as influential to that movement as he is.
I thought that, too. The movement will whither without a charismatic, shameless entertainer as its face and focus; who else is out there like that? Then, it hit me.
Joe Rogan.
But it’s not like President Leon is cozying up to Rogan… right?
Maybe they can die together?
in a bunker somewhere
Poetry <3
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I certainly wouldn’t be crying myself to sleep that night.
I don’t think anyone would be sleeping with so much partying going around lol
Sure, Trumpy and JD the Couch Fucker are dead however the new President is Mike Johnson. Looking at the Presidential Line of Succession, it’s shit all the way down.
Of the entire list, I guess I’d pick Grassley.
At least he’s from the old school of partisan bickering.
Do Americans have no way to force an early election?
I don’t think so, the US isn’t like a Parliamentary government where the Government is comprised of sitting Members of Parliament and therefore are subject to the will of the Parliament.
Wow that’s kinda fucked
There are recall elections but those are for state elections.
Honestly, Vance seems even worse to me. Trump has that embarrassing grandpa vibe and he seems too stupid to make any important decisions on his own or realize what he’s doing. Vance gives me a determined murderous intent vibe.
Yeah Vance seems like a straight up dangerous psychopath. I’m very scared of him getting more power. (I’m worried already by the immense power he already has) I hope public support galvanizes against him quickly.
Vance is much less capable than Trump (and yes, I realize the complete deapth of incompetence that would imply). The harm that he could do would be negated by the complete inability of anyone around him to take him or any threat from him seriously. Especially those on his own side.
Trump, at the very least, still has the threat of his rabid fans to wield.
Less capable? I’m not so sure, the dude has backchannel smarmed his way into being VP at the age of like fucking 12, he’s smart and ambitious and evil. Bad combination.
He’s there because he is a willing toady and not a threat to Trump. No one would be willing to follow him.
Vance doesn’t have any of Trump’s presence. He’s just such a weenie.
After watching the trump, JD, zelensky situation, I lost a big of respect for JD. He acted like a twat. Trump is definitely a better president than him. President that is. They are both douchebags, but so far doing good for the country.
You need to drink your meds, grandpa.
Don’t indult your elders, grandpa’s have been through some shit. Sadly I can’t berate you with realities though as I’m not even close to being that old.
No indults. Got it, ya dipshit!
I’m curious, what good do you see trump doing for the country? It seems to me that he’s doing a lot of harm but we probably have differing views
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When I call Trump and Musk Nazis, I’m not talking about concentration camps or genocide as with 1940 Nazis either. I’m referring to 1933 Nazis which were using demonization of others, attacking independent media, and The Big Lie to consolidate power. These are what made the Holocaust possible.
Don’t waste your breath
This must be the stupidest comment on all lemmy history so far.
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There’s not enough crayons and sock puppets in the entire multiverse to get your dumbass to understand.
Nothing is bad about that, IF that was what was actually happening. Unfortunately, it very much is not.
I don’t have the time to go on explaining why upping taxes for everyone making under $500k isn’t catering to 99.999% of the population. Or how blowing up USAID and surprise Pikachu facing when farmers can’t sell their crops since they sold a lot to USAID (not to mention all the soft power USAID gets us and how useful it is to so many people here and abroad). Restricting access to news agencies is not “more freedom of speech” but rather suppression of it.
Idk you know there is a bunch more I could say but the reality is not at all what you’re painting with your comments.
Less dei? Sorry English isn’t my first language, can you explain me what that mean?
Diversity, equity, and inclusion. The MAGAs have been spoonfed bs that caring for minorities and disabled is stealing their jobs and money.
I know, I wanted them to verbalize their racism.
DEI means diversity, equity, and inclusion. Generally loose frameworks to promote equality for all people. Big talking point for the right, they hate it.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dei-programs/story?id=97004455 https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/22/us/dei-diversity-equity-inclusion-explained/index.html
Recently a bunch of businesses cut their DEI policies for trump and government offices were ordered to kill anything DEI related.
Man, you’ve really eaten all the propaganda huh? Leave some for the rest of us man
I’m starting to think maybe the username isn’t just a username, and the account is literally for a wall panel to express its views.
Wow, a real one in the wild. It’s incredible to see how twisted your perception of reality is.
You don’t get to claim you’re protecting women with transphobic laws when you’re actively inviting sex traffickers like the Tate Brothers to Florida… the whole anti trans women in sports is just misogyny.
Can women be in men’s sports?
What about the veterans who lost their government job?
What efficiency has been created?
What if he starts concentration camps, is that enough to compare Trump to Hitler? Or does it have to specifically be death camps? What if people in those concentrations camps just disappeared and nobody cound find them, would that count?
Russian trolls and bots have arrived.
Please name/link the wars that ended during his administrations. Why can’t the sports leagues decide who participates via their own rules?
I’ll give him Afghanistan as he organized the withdrawal… but we saw how big a fuckup that was, so bravo for ending that war after 20 years, but proves he has no idea what he’s doing.
He declined to execute the withdrawal, it didn’t happen during the Trump administration.
Wars ended: 0.