• Cosmic Cleric
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    11 day ago

    No. Because Trump’s actions have caused people to die in Ukraine. It’s not a vacuum where there are discrete outcomes. You have to accept responsibility for all your actions.

    They tried to stop one genocide and created two.

    Some would argue then that the Democrats are to blame for not offering a good candidate that people could vote for, to avoid Trump winning.

    You and I could go down this rabbit hole with a million reasons why a million things happened in a million different ways, and it won’t change things.

    But fundamentally, votes are earned, not given, or coerced.

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      But fundamentally, votes are earned, not given, or coerced.

      That’s just playing with words, and not very well, imho.

      If I’m walking down the street and see a huge hole full of sharks in front of me, I don’t need to be persuaded not to jump into the hole.

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        If I’m walking down the street and see a huge hole full of sharks in front of me

        The only people who would want to jump in that hole would be people who don’t want to live, really like sharks, or want to protest the lack of pothole repair of their local streets. Though I’d imagine the local/city news channel would probably want to film that for their evening news broadcast.

        Regardless of what you think, you can’t change people’s minds on how they vote, especially by trying to coerce/guilt-trip them, when you can’t see how they vote. Its up to them, not you/me.

        Sharks notwithstanding, of course. lol

        (Also, if I was you, in that scenario I’d call an aquarium to pick up the sharks, and not worry about the ethics of voting your choice vs what someone else tells you to vote for.)

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            There’s a thing called “politics” and it’s all about changing the way people vote.

            Says the person who talks about potholes in streets full of sharks.

            Also, didn’t seem to work this last time. Just saying.

            You can’t guilt-trip people to voting for your guy, your guy has to earn those votes.

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              I apologize. Obviously what i thought was a light hearted metaphor has triggered something deeply disturbing to you. I apologize again.

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                Obviously what i thought was a light hearted metaphor has triggered something deeply disturbing to you.

                Obviously what I thought was a light-hearted tease about the poor usage of a metaphor has triggered something deeply disturbing to someone, somewhere.

                Also, noticed how you didn’t respond to the point I was making.

                There’s a thing called “politics” and it’s all about changing the way people vote.

                Also, didn’t seem to work this last time. Just saying.

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                    Ahhh, the ole “I’m rubber and you’re glue defense”, a long-time favorite.

                    Also, noticed how you didn’t respond to the point I was making.

                    There’s a thing called “politics” and it’s all about changing the way people vote.

                    Also, didn’t seem to work this last time. Just saying.

                    Have a nice day. :)

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