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    People who support this aren’t American anyway. Real Americans believe in human rights

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        I’m sorry, but when you actively support bullshit laws like this that dehumanize people, you don’t get to call yourself an American. Simple as that

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          To be clear, I am not defending them. I am just pointing out bad logic because it leads to bad beliefs and opinions.

          Unfortunately, these people are Americans, and there’s a whole bunch of them. There is no value whatsoever in trying to argue otherwise.

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            All I’m trying to say is that fascism is decidedly un-American

            Unfortunately that seems to be changing. It’s almost as if this country learned nothing 80 years ago

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              Yeah I dunno about all that… Hitler famously got most of his ideas from America. He modeled a lot of Nazi Germany after Jim Crow, and all the eugenics stuff originated in the US and was big in the academic community prior to WW2.

              We even had a massive conspiracy by corporations to take down FDR and install a fascist dictator. George W. Bush’s grandfather was literally involved.

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                I suppose you’re right that bringing nationality into it probably wasn’t the best idea.

                This is still unacceptable though

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              i know you’ve probably been always taught differently, but this is objectively untrue. this country was literally built on genocide and slavery, it was steeped in misogyny and racism.

              America has always been this.

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                Not to mention the US also always had a nazi problem. There was enough before we joined ww2 to fill up Madison square garden in protest. They just went quiet when we joined the war and it Became unamerican to be a nazi. And that’s not even counting the nazi scientists that moved here after the war.

                They’ve just been around waiting for people to forget and become more radical to make their moves

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        222 hours ago

        Most countries were. You can’t work backwards. You have to work forward towards the future

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          You have barely worked forward, since the US have been sabotaging the global South’s political self-determination and pillaging its resources.

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          Or, like, any pre-2008 American history lmao

          Recognizing human rights was an anomaly over the last few years, not the norm

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            21 day ago

            You’re not wrong, but I also don’t think the US is unique in that regard. There’s been a lot of bullshit going on, even in countries that you would never imagine things like that happening in.

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        42 days ago

        In most decent states there’s been a ton of progress. I never claimed we were always perfect. No country has been.

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          No I know. I would say all countries are pretty fucked up actually. Because human leaders are greedy and awful human beings in most cases.

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          11 day ago

          You say “decent states” as if you think rural east Oregon is better than Atlanta in that regard, just because Oregon is blue and Georgia is red.

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        32 days ago

        The sad thing is that Mango Mussolini would be stupid enough to actually pass something like that.