Intentionally loud exhausts are obnoxious and selfish. As much as I dislike it, however, I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance. We’re already the #3 most surveilled country in the world, only the USA and China is worse.
We may be number 3 but we must be number 1 in terms of % of people monitored by some form of camera. The USA road network is nowhere near as heavily monitored as the UK.
Driving through France, Belgium and the Netherlands was very free compared to the UK.
Electrics cars will make it a non issue but then we will be stuck with the surveillance. Our country is scary. No one cares.
Having said that if you are intentionally being noisy for noisy sake there should be harder punishments. Even lose your license for a bit, it’s not a got given right to drive. You got to earn it.
yes, and here you have an opportunity for that overwatch to benefit your daily lives. Accepting it everywhere else but bitching about it here seems pretty self defeating.
I have no idea why you’re making assumptions about me with literally no context. I’m heavily involved with activism locally, but it’s more in the area of direct action rather than protest, because protest is a waste of time.
Anyways, I haven’t been involved in anti-surveillance action, because it would be illegal to damage CCTV cameras, to cover them with paint, or to glue plastic bags over them. Lasers can be dangerous and people shouldn’t buy high powered ones from China. Fortunately lasers aren’t really good at permanently damaging cameras, but it’s still hazardous to use them to blind CCTV cameras, especially while disabling them with another method, because someone might get hurt or you could cause damage to the cameras.
Intentionally loud exhausts are obnoxious and selfish. As much as I dislike it, however, I’d far rather deal with the noise than having yet more surveillance. We’re already the #3 most surveilled country in the world, only the USA and China is worse.
Harley Davidson bikes are just noise pollution. Unlike cars they are build like this out of the factory.
Yea to me it’s not the volume of the engine/exhaust. It’s that it’s intentionally obnoxious
We may be number 3 but we must be number 1 in terms of % of people monitored by some form of camera. The USA road network is nowhere near as heavily monitored as the UK.
Driving through France, Belgium and the Netherlands was very free compared to the UK.
A taxi driver in Singapore once told me that they hold this title, ahead of the UK. He then pointed out the cameras on almost every lamp post.
Ahh yeh that sounds about right actually.
Electrics cars will make it a non issue but then we will be stuck with the surveillance. Our country is scary. No one cares.
Having said that if you are intentionally being noisy for noisy sake there should be harder punishments. Even lose your license for a bit, it’s not a got given right to drive. You got to earn it.
All drivers should be considerate of others
It seems most of the UK has forgotten the 5th of November
yes, and here you have an opportunity for that overwatch to benefit your daily lives. Accepting it everywhere else but bitching about it here seems pretty self defeating.
If it wasn’t obvious, I don’t accept it everywhere else, I think the state surveillance apparatus should be completely dismantled.
So you protest the ubiquitous surveillance a bunch?
Often?
Ever?
Yeah. Never. You’ve never once gone out on the real ones taking the piss out of you every fucking day. Never.
But this has you up in arms.
To put things succinctly, I’m not convinced mate.
I have no idea why you’re making assumptions about me with literally no context. I’m heavily involved with activism locally, but it’s more in the area of direct action rather than protest, because protest is a waste of time.
Anyways, I haven’t been involved in anti-surveillance action, because it would be illegal to damage CCTV cameras, to cover them with paint, or to glue plastic bags over them. Lasers can be dangerous and people shouldn’t buy high powered ones from China. Fortunately lasers aren’t really good at permanently damaging cameras, but it’s still hazardous to use them to blind CCTV cameras, especially while disabling them with another method, because someone might get hurt or you could cause damage to the cameras.