These jets were already sold to the Danes and Dutch, we’re just giving them the green light to send planes made by us to Ukraine to help free their people from oppressors
If they had instead sent those F-16s to the people of Maui they could have dropped napalm to create a firebreak ahead of the fire, saving hundreds of lives
You are right…. There should be a climate damage levy imposed on Exxon to help cover these extreme weather events and the people directly affected by their actions.
As much as I appreciate the sentiment I am pretty sure universal healthcare would cost the country less than medicaid and medicare; or so I have heard.
Funny how nobody ever makes these sorts of comments about, say, money we spend paying farmers to not grow corn, or money we spend on overpriced or useless weapons systems for our own military, or even specifically the military aid we give to wealthier, less deserving countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel; it’s always Ukraine that brings out the “how come we aren’t spending money on X” people.
You know I’ve been noticing a heck of a lot of communists on Lemmy the past week. It’s crazy, there’s this whole gaggle of people posting on socialism, hex bear, Games, vegan topics and related threads.
I think everybody who’s reading this thread is going to fail to see the connection you’re trying to draw between Hawaiian Electric and light and the Ukrainian military.
Unless you have some sort of evidence that Ukraine owns and operates Hawaiian Electric and will somehow benefit from Hawaiians losing their ancestral homes.
I mean, I’ve seen some stupid conspiracies of my time but this is just dumb.
in international weapons sales manufacturer’s country retains some degree of control over equipment even after sale, especially for heavy equipment like any aircraft, SPGs, SAMs, tanks and so on. so for example if Country A sells jets to Country B to serve in Country B’s air force, that’s all clear, but if then Country B wants to sell them somewhere else, it has to get Country A’s approval. otherwise, if these jets mysteriously find themselves in Country C’s air force, that happens to be enemy of Country A, then Country B can probably forget about any weapon deals with Country A and their allies for a long long time in addition to diplomatic mess it would cause
this is that approval given from usa to nederlands and denmark, no money is involved
there was little shitshow about it early in the war, because ammo for gepards was made in switzerland, and they didn’t approve of sale from germany to ukraine
Meanwhile, the people in Maui who lost their homes and everything they’ve ever owned get a one time payment of $700.
These jets were already sold to the Danes and Dutch, we’re just giving them the green light to send planes made by us to Ukraine to help free their people from oppressors
If they had instead sent those F-16s to the people of Maui they could have dropped napalm to create a firebreak ahead of the fire, saving hundreds of lives
A-10s would have been much better suited for that.
I don’t see how F16s would help them but maybe an airshow would spread the Spirit of Aloha.
Youre right, the Dutch should donate their old F16s to the suffering people of Maui because… Uhhh…
Because, damn it! Because!
You are right…. There should be a climate damage levy imposed on Exxon to help cover these extreme weather events and the people directly affected by their actions.
As much as I hate the idea that America is a capitalist hellscape that minces the poor to make ‘line go up’.
Sometimes there’s this unfortunate coincidence where the military industrial complex inadvertently does some good.
Russians are going to learn why America doesn’t have the money for universal healthcare.
As much as I appreciate the sentiment I am pretty sure universal healthcare would cost the country less than medicaid and medicare; or so I have heard.
Less than Medicaid, Medicare, and what everyone is paying individually added together.
Makes sense
Funny how nobody ever makes these sorts of comments about, say, money we spend paying farmers to not grow corn, or money we spend on overpriced or useless weapons systems for our own military, or even specifically the military aid we give to wealthier, less deserving countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel; it’s always Ukraine that brings out the “how come we aren’t spending money on X” people.
They’re either paid shills, or braindead useful idiots. Russia cultivates both types for propaganda.
You know I’ve been noticing a heck of a lot of communists on Lemmy the past week. It’s crazy, there’s this whole gaggle of people posting on socialism, hex bear, Games, vegan topics and related threads.
What do Communists have to do with right wingers falling for Russian propaganda?
A particular type of Communist colloquially known as “tankies” tend to suck up the Russian propaganda the same way alt-right people do.
Tankies are hardcore authoritarians who pretends to be Communists. Let’s not confound the two.
I think everybody who’s reading this thread is going to fail to see the connection you’re trying to draw between Hawaiian Electric and light and the Ukrainian military.
Unless you have some sort of evidence that Ukraine owns and operates Hawaiian Electric and will somehow benefit from Hawaiians losing their ancestral homes.
I mean, I’ve seen some stupid conspiracies of my time but this is just dumb.
in international weapons sales manufacturer’s country retains some degree of control over equipment even after sale, especially for heavy equipment like any aircraft, SPGs, SAMs, tanks and so on. so for example if Country A sells jets to Country B to serve in Country B’s air force, that’s all clear, but if then Country B wants to sell them somewhere else, it has to get Country A’s approval. otherwise, if these jets mysteriously find themselves in Country C’s air force, that happens to be enemy of Country A, then Country B can probably forget about any weapon deals with Country A and their allies for a long long time in addition to diplomatic mess it would cause
this is that approval given from usa to nederlands and denmark, no money is involved
there was little shitshow about it early in the war, because ammo for gepards was made in switzerland, and they didn’t approve of sale from germany to ukraine
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Technically, Maui was invaded—by the US.
So you’re saying, with the F-16s sent away, now is Maui’s time to strike back
It was a long game but it worked.
They waited until they gained the US’s trust, got everyone drunk off delicious tiki drinks, and redirected military defences.
I, for one, welcome our new grass skirt and island time overlords.
They must still have the 8 to 14 artillery pieces and the 1 gatling gun tucked away somewhere
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