I’m always bugged more by individual moments than bigger things. So while T’Pol might be wearing an old fun center carpet as a uniform, and the temporal Cold War is both overly complex and excruciatingly boring neither of those things bothers me more than the following.

In season one, there is an episode titled ‘Unexpected’. In this episode Tripp becomes space pregnant from an alien space mama. During his pregnancy he is framed as becoming irrationally overconcerned about the safety of very minor or unlikely hazards.

At one point, he is in engineering and complains that if you hold onto the handrail of the elevator while it moves, your fingers will be sliced off against the scaffolding since there is no gap.

A crew member brushes him off by just saying, essentially, “Lol skill issue, just don’t hold the handguard.”

Again, Tripp is the one being framed as irrational in this discussion. Because he has a problem with a handguard that slices your fingers off.

Space hormones or not, he’s right that it’s a terrible design.

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    • insist on not having a unit of exchange or currency, but then some how having massive amounts of trade and economy.

    As you mentioned before, they have replicators, so why would they have currency inside the Federation?

    They don’t need money in the Federation, but since they have limited resources on a spaceship and also interact with other species, they kinda have to barter, mostly to curry favor with these species.

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        (Besides cultural exports- let’s…. Not get into that.)

        The British Museum the Doctor wants to know you location.

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        Goods can be exchanged without currency. It’s called barter and has been around longer than money.

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          This is essentially not true.

          There’s this popular notion that “There was the bucket maker and the fisherman. I’ll trade you a bucket for some fish, said the bucket maker. Sounds good, said the fisherman. Then when the bucket maker finished eating his fish, he went back to the fisherman and said I’ll trade you another bucket for some more fish and the fisherman said No thanks, the first one is doing just fine.” and the side quest for the bucket maker to find someone who wants a bucket right now got to the point where we just need to invent some universal third good: Money.

          This is a fallacy. Small communities like those humanity started out with operate on a sort of social credit. “Ah you gave me those fish last month, we’ll call it even.” Eventually a community gets big enough that you start using a more formal credit system, then once the community gets big enough that you don’t personally know everyone in your community, you adopt a hard currency.

          In practically all cases, barter is an ad hoc system used between communities with incompatible currencies and then only briefly until relations can be established, or by individuals for whom hard currency is unavailable or inconvenient at the moment.

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            I’m glad we could find consensus; as you confirm barter has been around longer than money (or the time it takes to build the relationship required to trust currency exchange) and it can be used where money isused too.

            Yours builds on the idea, which is fine. But the point is that The Federation doesn’t need money - the gold pressed latinum is where they explore currency and seems to be missed by OP.

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        They have trade. Inside and outside.

        Outside sure, but I don’t think I have seen any internally. Do you have examples?

        Currency facilitates trade. Next question: why do they need trade? (Besides cultural exports- let’s…. Not get into that.)

        They can just replicate the other’s civilization money if it is at a lower stage of technology advancement. In the scenario of the same or later technology stage, like the Ferengi Alliance, they would trade for technology, information and/or territories.

        The one resource they have a desperate need is dilithium, which they had automated the extraction using the Doctor holograms lol.

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            the trouble with tribbles grain deal comes to mind. The grain is being held/shipped for a member world.

            Being shipped doesn’t mean it is a trade deal, they offered assistance due to its strategic position as it is a disputed planet between the Federation and the Klingons. And if you’re talking about the deal between the bartender and Cyrano Jones, he is independent from the Federation, like Quark’s bar, any deal between would be external (and they seem to use credits as a currency?).

            Then there’s Cassidy Yates and all the federation traders in ds9 (though that’s not a solid argument.) there’s also the cargo ships frequently used in tng as background.

            In a similar situation, Deep Space Station 9 is close to disputed territory and Federation candidate members. So again, they deal between Federation and others species. And the cargo ships in TNG aren’t necessarily, doing any sort trade, they may simply hauling supplies for Federation planets and colonies.

            Dilithium deuterium minning are also frequently mentioned… usually the federation being interested in minning for its own use. (Just another reason to build the power system off something else…actually.)

            Since they need it for every warp drive spaceship, I assume it would be a very well controlled resource. And due to its importance I don’t think they would hire external help, so it would be fair to assume they use Federation miners and scientists to extract it. But again I don’t think they mention any internal trade, so I assume they distribute it accordingly to each species or organization.