Dang you got me. There is so much evidence for the man existing such as ummm some “historian” writing 150 years later describing what other people said.
You don’t read a lot of history do you? Look into what kind of “evidence” we have for entire cultures in the ancient world. The guy definitely existed. The question is wether or not he had super powers.
I see. What culture in particular are you discussing that we have this little evidence for? Also can I ask, if a low bar of evidence was accepted for one thing does that mean a low bar of evidence must be accepted for another?
Off the top of my head: there are entire reigns of of the less famous Kings from the Persian Empire which we have almost nothing from.
Loaded question, but on the whole: yes, assuming you do in fact accept the first body of evidence.
I’m not going to argue with you, because it seems that you’re less self-aware than some fundies that I know, but I did find an interesting video for you to watch while you’re splitting hairs. https://youtu.be/vxuqSg4f7yY?si=bYSgc-NVwVoNQYoa
Maybe don’t go off the top of your head. You said "Look into what kind of “evidence” we have for entire cultures in the ancient world. " now you are talking about kings. Can you move the goalposts back please? I want a list of cultures that have less evidence of existing and are as widely accepted as existing as Jesus.
Well let’s start with some.
Sorry I don’t click random YouTube links. You got an argument you make the argument.
I normally don’t go in for this kind of thing, but why not?
Firstly: you need to clarify your position, because, right now, it’s so vague I don’t even know where to start. If you’re arguing against the existence of “Jesus of Nazareth” then the only thing I can say is that ‘Jeaus’ was, then as now, a reasonably common name. It’s like denying the existence of “Steven from Philadelphia”. Even without the presence of crucifixion records from Calvary, it’s a near statistical certainty that one existed.
If you’re more specifically arguing against Jesus of Nazareth being the one true son of the one true God, then, ya, I think we’re on the same page there, but that’s purely conjecture, because you never cared to clarify.
I do think you would enjoy the video that I linked though, if you can fit it into your schedule. It’s from the channel “Today I found out” and the video is titled “Is there any hard evidence that Jesus actually existed?” In case you need to look it up independently.
Tl;dr: your argument is too vague to even be considered wrong.
Paul found a group and took them over. The group had a founder. The founder was not a man named jesus. The stories that Paul was told, and ultimately came to be the Gospels, were fabrications.
Now now. That’s not the subject of the current debate. You just told me to stay on target; you do the same. If you want to change the subject, that’s fine, but you need to either agree with my previous post, and admit the error of your position, clarify your position, or keep arguing that no human has ever been named Jesus.
Dang you got me. There is so much evidence for the man existing such as ummm some “historian” writing 150 years later describing what other people said.
You don’t read a lot of history do you? Look into what kind of “evidence” we have for entire cultures in the ancient world. The guy definitely existed. The question is wether or not he had super powers.
I see. What culture in particular are you discussing that we have this little evidence for? Also can I ask, if a low bar of evidence was accepted for one thing does that mean a low bar of evidence must be accepted for another?
Maybe don’t go off the top of your head. You said "Look into what kind of “evidence” we have for entire cultures in the ancient world. " now you are talking about kings. Can you move the goalposts back please? I want a list of cultures that have less evidence of existing and are as widely accepted as existing as Jesus.
Well let’s start with some.
Sorry I don’t click random YouTube links. You got an argument you make the argument.
I normally don’t go in for this kind of thing, but why not?
Firstly: you need to clarify your position, because, right now, it’s so vague I don’t even know where to start. If you’re arguing against the existence of “Jesus of Nazareth” then the only thing I can say is that ‘Jeaus’ was, then as now, a reasonably common name. It’s like denying the existence of “Steven from Philadelphia”. Even without the presence of crucifixion records from Calvary, it’s a near statistical certainty that one existed.
If you’re more specifically arguing against Jesus of Nazareth being the one true son of the one true God, then, ya, I think we’re on the same page there, but that’s purely conjecture, because you never cared to clarify.
I do think you would enjoy the video that I linked though, if you can fit it into your schedule. It’s from the channel “Today I found out” and the video is titled “Is there any hard evidence that Jesus actually existed?” In case you need to look it up independently.
Tl;dr: your argument is too vague to even be considered wrong.
Paul found a group and took them over. The group had a founder. The founder was not a man named jesus. The stories that Paul was told, and ultimately came to be the Gospels, were fabrications.
Now now. That’s not the subject of the current debate. You just told me to stay on target; you do the same. If you want to change the subject, that’s fine, but you need to either agree with my previous post, and admit the error of your position, clarify your position, or keep arguing that no human has ever been named Jesus.
I never argued no one was named Jesus.
Edit: is this an example of a strawman argument?