We are currently the 2nd largest instance in terms of monthly active users. This brings a financial burden and we would appreciate your help about it.
If you want to donate, here’s donation platforms we use:
- Throne.com: No need to register. I tried and received payment. So it works.
- Ethereum: 0x4e4af5dc2f86235ac496542c2a1c00f3c4de40c6
- Monero: 48VYVWPKk65KiDiBaLhvSggKSbDQ4vtdq6HHbDa2HxWLiBWVcZ65gTgMBu7UeSUcm4dasAMMaKHnJNJSgRKi7Q5R5HN9adg
- Trocador.app (multiple cryptocurrencies)
Financial status
Here is what we have and what we spent.
| date | description | fiat | ETH | XMR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024-11-24 | - load balance server | $107 | 0.0097 ETH | 2.0118 XMR (-0.0707 XMR) |
| 2024-11-16 | + donation (from 11-15) | $107 | 0.0097 ETH | 2.0825 XMR (+0.0569 XMR) |
| 2024-11-16 | + donation (from 11-07) | $107 | 0.0097 ETH | 2.0256 XMR (+1 XMR 🙏) |
| 2024-11-14 | - main server | $107 (-$75) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR |
| 2024-11-12 | + donation | $182 (+$20) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR |
| 2024-11-12 | - media storage | $162 (-$18) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR |
| 2024-11-08 | + donation | $180 (+$10) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR |
| 2024-11-01 | + donation | $170 (+$10) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR |
| 2024-10-25 | - load balance server | $160 | 0.0097 ETH | 1.0256 XMR (-0.0770 XMR) |
| 2024-10-17 | + donation | $160 (+$10) | 0.0097 ETH | 1.1026 XMR |
| 2024-10-15 | + donation | $150 | 0.0097 ETH (+0.0073 ETH) | 1.1026 XMR |
| 2024-10-14 | - main server | $150 (-$75) | 0.002 ETH | 1.1026 XMR |
| 2024-10-12 | - media storage | $225 (-$18) | 0.002 ETH | 1.1026 XMR |
| 2024-09-24 | - load balance servers | $243 | 0.002 ETH | 1.1026 XMR (-0.1270 XMR) |
| 2024-09-14 | - main server | $243 (-$75) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2296 XMR |
| 2024-09-12 | - media storage | $318 (-$17) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2296 XMR |
| 2024-08-30 | + donation | $335 | 0.002 ETH | 1.2296 XMR (+0.0318 XMR) |
| 2024-08-26 | - load balance server | $335 | 0.002 ETH | 1.1577 XMR (-0.1153 XMR) |
| 2024-08-16 | + donations (one from July 29) | $335 (+$20) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-08-14 | - main server | $315 (-$75) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-08-12 | - media storage | $390 (-$15) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-07-26 | + donation | $405 (+$5) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-07-26 | + donation | $400 (+$20) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-07-26 | + donation | $380 (+$50) | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR |
| 2024-07-25 | - load balance server | $330 | 0.002 ETH | 1.2731 XMR (-0.0729 XMR) |
| 2024-07-14 | - main server | $330 (-$75) | 0.002 ETH | 1.3460 XMR |
| 2024-07-12 | - media storage | $405 (-$25) | 0.002 ETH | 1.3460 XMR |
| 2024-06-24 | - load balance server | $430 | 0.002 ETH | 1.3460 XMR (-0.0731 XMR) |
| 2024-06-14 | - main server | $430 (-$75) | 0.002 ETH | 1.4192 XMR |
| 2024-06-13 | + donation | $505 (+$20) | 0.002 ETH | 1.4192 XMR |
| 2024-06-12 | - media storage | $485 (-$25) | 0.002 ETH | 1.4192 XMR |
| 2024-06-06 | + donation | $510 (+$20) | 0.002 ETH | 1.4192 XMR |
| 2024-06-04 | / coin to fiat | $490 (+$473) | 0.002 ETH (-0.125 ETH) | 1.4192 XMR |
| 2024-05-22 | - load balance server | $17 | 0.1276 ETH | 1.4192 XMR (-0.0861 XMR) |
| 2024-05-22 | + donation | $17 | 0.1276 ETH | 1.5050 XMR (+0.1442 XMR) |
| 2024-05-21 | + donation | $17 | 0.1276 ETH | 1.3611 XMR (+1 XMR) |
| 2024-05-17 | + donation | $17 | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3611 XMR (+042069 XMR 🚬) |
| 2024-05-17 | + donation | $17 (+$20) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR |
| 2024-05-15 | - main server | -$3 (-$75) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR |
| 2024-05-13 | - media storage | $72 (-$24) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR |
| 2024-04-28 | + donation | $96 (+$50) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR |
| 2024-04-26 | + donation | $46 (+$20) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR |
| 2024-04-24 | - load balance server | $26 | 0.1276 ETH | 0.3190 XMR (-0.0993 XMR) |
| 2024-04-21 | + donation | $26 (+$50) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.4184 XMR |
| 2024-04-15 | - main server | -$24 (-$65) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.4184 XMR |
| 2024-04-10 | - media storage | $41 (-$19) | 0.1276 ETH | 0.4184 XMR |
| 2024-04-09 | + donation | $60 | 0.1276 ETH (+0.06969 ETH 🙃) | 0.4184 XMR |
| 2024-04-01 | + donations | $60 (+$25) | 0.0579 ETH | 0.4184 XMR (+0.1827 XMR) |
| 2024-03-30 | - load balance server | $35 | 0.0579 ETH | 0.2357 XMR (-0.0890 XMR) |
| 2024-03-04 | + donation | $35 | 0.0579 ETH | 0.3247 XMR (+0.0420 XMR) |
| 2024-03-02 | - main server | $35 (-$65) | 0.0579 ETH | 0.2827 XMR |
| 2024-02-28 | + donation | $100 | 0.0579 ETH (+0.0073 ETH) | 0.2827 XMR |
| 2024-02-27 | - load balance server | $100 | 0.0506 ETH | 0.2827 XMR (-0.1516 XMR) |
| 2024-02-01 | - new server and email provider | $100 (-$75) | 0.0506 ETH | 0.3738 XMR |
| 2024-02-01 | / approximate initial value | $175 | 0.0506 ETH | 0.3738 XMR |
A little note about about this financial status report
- Throne
- it is fiat type and I will only add money here when I withdraw it.
- Cryptocurrencies
- I will truncate numbers to 4 decimal places.
- It may not always be up to date. You can check up to date ETH balance by clicking to it.
- No matter which coin you send from Trocador, the money will merge into Monero.
I was really surprised to see that youre using a .com-domain. That alone must be costing you a small fortune per year.
Domains cost like $9 a year.
Yeah it’s 9.15 on Cloudflare right now. Costly thing in our infrastructure is going to be storage and server specifications. I’ll migrate to S3 as soon as Lemmy 0.18.1 releases.
Is S3 more cost efficient? I have had experience with it being much more reliable and durable, but the cost in the long run could be higher than having it next to the service
20TB of file is going to cost us 300$ in the future. It is close to free IMO :) Also some providers doesn’t charge eggress fees and/or API usage.
Edit: For reference, Hetzner bills 44€ for 1TB data volume.
Maybe I’m misreading it, but if you are mainly looking for better pricings, isn’t something like Backblaze B2 even cheaper?
I never used it, but when I was searching for a media host I remember it was the overall better one, pricing wise, being in the Bandwidth Alliance and all that.
But I seriously checked them a long time ago so it could be different, now.
Yeah it was my first choice too. But the thing is, egress fees are free if you use it through Cloudflare. Pictrs (Lemmy’s media service) directly communicates with S3 service. So it will be cheaper per TB but I have to pay for downloads.
Also found Wasabi. It costs 6$ per TB with no API or download fees. I’ve researched, it seems to only allow as much bandwidth as you store.
Amazon and Google’s prices are known.
I will use Cloudflare R2 as the last option. It bills $15 per TB. There is no extra fee but API.
Doesn’t it Amazon charge for data transfer? I.e the more requests you’ll get, the more they’ll bill?
Please see this comment
Interesting. Ive never checked on things through Cloudflare. Godaddy and Google charge like 3000 USD for a com domain
Those are probably premium domains. A registrar buys that domain and resells it.
What domain are you looking at that costs 3k