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Lemmy.world Admin Response to Defederation from Exploding Heads - Lemmy.world
lemmy.worldToday, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from
https://exploding-heads.com/ [https://exploding-heads.com/]. We understand that
defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block
communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to
vulnerable communities. After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts,
and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads
is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot,
in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes
hate, racism, and bullying. Examples:
https://lemmy.world/post/577526 [https://lemmy.world/post/577526] - Community
Moderator Harassment
https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194]
- Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780]
- Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488]
- Systemadmin Post
https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725]
- Community Moderator Post Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not
taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a
case-by-case bases. As for our community, please refrain from posting or
commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is
not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments
violating our server rules. Lemmy Code of Conduct
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
[https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html]
Citizen Code of Conduct
https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
[https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md]
“We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for
all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual
orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age,
religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”
It gives me hope for the future of beehaw refederating with that instance. They host some interesting communities. To be clear, I fully support beehaw defederating, it’s just heartwarming to see instance admins do things that move things forward
I have a noob question. From a technical point of view, why does it matter to server A (beehaw) whether server B (world) federates with C (exploding nazis) or not? Since A is defederated from C, the content should be unavailable anyway. I completely get why a proper moderation of B itself is crucial, but what B federates with should be irrelevant if B itself stays “pure”, right? Again, from a technical point of view, because otherwise willingly federating with nazis obviously strongly correlates with allowing nazis inside. To reiterate, how is A directly affected by what B federates with? Is it merely a matter of lobbying or is there some technicality I’m missing here?
I think it’s more just the stance beehaw has in general. They don’t want to federate with the Nazi instance, or anyone that wants to do with them. Same way people don’t want to hang out with racists, or people who also hang out with racists.
I do share the sentiment, was just wondering whether there is more to it. I presume the answer is “no” then. (and that’s fine!)
From a technical standpint, it doesn’t matter. The point is more just that it’s an indicator of moderation style and what we can hope to see in the future.
The user’s comments are also content, and Server A can see threads from Server B, where Server C is trying to radicalize people to Nazi beliefs.
Basically Server C uses Server B’s neutrality to spread
And at that point, server A has to rely on Server B moderating for that, or their members still have to see that.
Users on server A will never see the comments from server C, regardless of where they are. It’s a bit like a shadowban on Reddit. The only reason I’m so sure of it is that I’ve seen it happen with Lemmygrad comments on lemmy.ml