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A month after a pig heart transplant, man works to regain strength with no rejection so far::It’s been a month since a Maryland man became the second person to receive a transplanted heart from a pig — and hospital video released Friday shows he’s working hard to recover.
I definitely don’t value humans enough to use an animal as an incubator for a heart. It’s cruel and extremely unethical. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise that animals don’t also deserve life just the same as humans.
All animals under all circumstances?
If I’m driving down the road, and a squirrel runs out of nowhere, and I can either hit it or jerk the wheel and fly off the road, I risk that my car will save me, because it will for sure kill the squirrel?
What if you have a child born with a heart issue that will kill it, and there is an option to euthanize a pig that will likely save your child child life, you would let your child die in lieu of the pig?
Yea, I’ma call bullshit on that one. It’s good that you value the lives of all creatures, and you think that you value them equally to humans, but you’re lying to yourself.
Honestly that’s kinda the problem I have with a lot of animal activities you have some that try their best like sheltering stray cats and dogs then you have pita activists that seem to think we must kill humans to make way for our animal overlords
You can say whatever you want. I never said it was a popular opinion. Every single time it comes up people say the same things, make the same arguments.
I know it’s hard to believe, but not everyone shares your belief system.
So you’re saying you’d sacrifice your vehicle and life for a squirrel in the road?
I’ve slammed on my brakes before to avoid hitting an animal. What’s so controversial about that?
In this hypothetical situation, you don’t have enough time to stop. 65 mph down the hwy, 30 yards in front of you. One of you has to go. Who’s it gonna be?
Or we can go back to the other example… You would let your child suffer and die from a heart condition instead of giving them a chance to survive, and all that’s needed is the life of a single pig. Keep in mind, pigs live about 15-20 and people live generally 65+ years. So point blank, would you trade your kid’s life for that of a pig’s?
Can’t wait to see their answer!
I’m not gonna engage in dumb hypothetical with strangers on the internet.
Lol. You’re so fucking delusional. You’ve been engaging up until I asked for a point blank answer. You’d either have to lie and continue to look like the idiot you are, or you’d have to admit you were mistaken in your beliefs.
Or, alternatively, I know it’s hard to believe, but this is devolved into people calling me a moron, and I have better things to do with my time.
That’s good for your beliefs, but a useless argument for anyone who eats meat. Raising and slaughtering a pig to provide a human a heart is even more useful than raising one for its meat, and chances are that the one raised for its heart was taken much better care of before being killed.
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This only really tracks if you’re vegan, which you may be. But if we slaughter a million pigs for meat is that really any different? We already incubate them for bacon, are you really so against this that you’d let a family member die than slaughter a pig for its heart?
He’s not that against it. He’s just posturing online. Very few people, maybe 0.1%, would choose a pig’s life over their grandmother’s. (No I don’t care if your grandma was a dick. Pick another beloved family member or friend.)
Even as a vegan, it’s pretty up in the air imo. It’s well established that if your life saving medication contains animal products, you take the medication. This is more complicated for sure, but an argument can probably be made. I’m not sure what I feel about it.