I never claimed that Star Trek didn’t share the same theme. I said it still holds the traits and beliefs of Star Trek and stays to those values. I also said that every show has its own distinct feeling and vibe while still sharing those beliefs. The traits are kept consistent, the code of morals consistent, it’s outright false to say that they do not stick by it or stand by it. It’s also wrong to say it doesn’t “grab ahold of that well” because it’s an opinion, not objective truth.
The interactions between the characters
There is no hint of “teeny” behavior in the show or in the way they interact with each other. There just isn’t. Everyone treats one another like an adult (once the show gets going). As mentioned, the only “teeny” behavior you could possibly claim is them displaying emotion more than other shows. You also say “So many are interested in hooking up instead of their duties” which is just an outright lie. Burnham is the only one who ever seeks an active relationship and at no point does it ever supersede her duties.
Because I was speaking in hyperbole.
I do not believe you. You started this off by saying that Pike is the only redeemable part of the show. Then you say that Discovery is well done. Then you say it isn’t well done, it’s “teeny” and “cheap and lazy”. You also claim that the show is missing some completely immeasurable “feeling”, say their traits aren’t consistent and are then attempting to gatekeep what is and isn’t star trek by saying it “doesn’t feel proper”. There’s no consistency at all.
Everything you just said was opinion and you attempted to pass it off as fact. I have absolutely zero interest in ever engaging with someone who is gatekeeping and insistent on saying something isn’t real Trek while claiming things about the show that are factually inaccurate. I have no place in my life for such negative behavior. Like I said before. If someone wants to not like Discovery that’s fine but lying about the show and attempting to gatekeep it by saying it isn’t real Trek or doesn’t understand it? Yeah, that’s not okay behavior. I’m just going to pass entirely on all that. Bye.
There is no hint of “teeny” behavior in the show or in the way they interact with each other.
I wasn’t saying the characters were behaving teeny, rather the show seems to be aimed more towards teenagers, along with most of CBS’ other lineup.
Everything you just said was opinion and you attempted to pass it off as fact.
I would think it’s abundantly obvious that it’s an opinion, nowhere did I claim it was fact, and nor did I gatekeep or say you didn’t understand anything. You’re getting far too aggressive here, I’m sorry if I touched a nerve, but I am entitled to my opinion on the shows just as much as you are. In my opinion, Enterprise and Discovery don’t feel like proper Trek. I’m sorry if I didn’t articulate that very well, but that doesn’t give you the right to berate me and belittle me over an opinion on a fictional franchise.
I actually had a great deal of respect for you going into this. I mentioned how I was going to re-watch Discovery in light of what you said, and I was hoping to get your opinion on some other shows, as you clearly have a different way of looking at things than me and I’m interested in that insight. All I did was criticise a show. In return, you criticised me, personally.
Stamets is an internet celebrity, bro. He was right to stomp on your personhood, you had the temerity to disagree with his august opinions of his favorite network TV shows. Shame on you.
I never claimed that Star Trek didn’t share the same theme. I said it still holds the traits and beliefs of Star Trek and stays to those values. I also said that every show has its own distinct feeling and vibe while still sharing those beliefs. The traits are kept consistent, the code of morals consistent, it’s outright false to say that they do not stick by it or stand by it. It’s also wrong to say it doesn’t “grab ahold of that well” because it’s an opinion, not objective truth.
There is no hint of “teeny” behavior in the show or in the way they interact with each other. There just isn’t. Everyone treats one another like an adult (once the show gets going). As mentioned, the only “teeny” behavior you could possibly claim is them displaying emotion more than other shows. You also say “So many are interested in hooking up instead of their duties” which is just an outright lie. Burnham is the only one who ever seeks an active relationship and at no point does it ever supersede her duties.
I do not believe you. You started this off by saying that Pike is the only redeemable part of the show. Then you say that Discovery is well done. Then you say it isn’t well done, it’s “teeny” and “cheap and lazy”. You also claim that the show is missing some completely immeasurable “feeling”, say their traits aren’t consistent and are then attempting to gatekeep what is and isn’t star trek by saying it “doesn’t feel proper”. There’s no consistency at all.
Everything you just said was opinion and you attempted to pass it off as fact. I have absolutely zero interest in ever engaging with someone who is gatekeeping and insistent on saying something isn’t real Trek while claiming things about the show that are factually inaccurate. I have no place in my life for such negative behavior. Like I said before. If someone wants to not like Discovery that’s fine but lying about the show and attempting to gatekeep it by saying it isn’t real Trek or doesn’t understand it? Yeah, that’s not okay behavior. I’m just going to pass entirely on all that. Bye.
I wasn’t saying the characters were behaving teeny, rather the show seems to be aimed more towards teenagers, along with most of CBS’ other lineup.
I would think it’s abundantly obvious that it’s an opinion, nowhere did I claim it was fact, and nor did I gatekeep or say you didn’t understand anything. You’re getting far too aggressive here, I’m sorry if I touched a nerve, but I am entitled to my opinion on the shows just as much as you are. In my opinion, Enterprise and Discovery don’t feel like proper Trek. I’m sorry if I didn’t articulate that very well, but that doesn’t give you the right to berate me and belittle me over an opinion on a fictional franchise.
I actually had a great deal of respect for you going into this. I mentioned how I was going to re-watch Discovery in light of what you said, and I was hoping to get your opinion on some other shows, as you clearly have a different way of looking at things than me and I’m interested in that insight. All I did was criticise a show. In return, you criticised me, personally.
Stamets is an internet celebrity, bro. He was right to stomp on your personhood, you had the temerity to disagree with his august opinions of his favorite network TV shows. Shame on you.