But people complain about the newer iterations of Trek being ‘woke’ for introducing all flavor of LGBTQIA+ characters, tackling hot button issues, and just generally showing love and equality for all. Yet they seem to be completely blind to the fact that the original series started all of this by being ‘woke’ at the time. Having a black woman on the bridge who was treated as an equal, a Japanese man treated as an equal. Even a Russian with Chekov. People forget that at the time this was a little bit insane to show on TV. Now it’s like “Oh well, yeah, of course! They were just being awesome!” No. They were being the 60s equivalent of woke. That only continued in The Next Generation by introducing more people of color, people with disabilities of all sorts, and more intense subject matter. Got even more intense (and darker) in DS9. Voyager is guilty of the same thing. Enterprise as well but it’s the younger sibling people talk less about so it doesn’t get as much praise in that department. Probably because of alien nazis but blame Voyager for starting that with the Hirogen.
Anyway.
Point being that Star Trek has been woke since the start but people wanna ignore that and just whine about people different than them because they’re either cowards who are afraid change, who are hateful bigots who don’t want others to have happiness, or who are fools that believe the world revolves around them.
I’d say it’s not even woke, it’s an ideal. The Federation is symbolic of a utopian society, something that could be achieved through cooperation and tolerance and understanding.
I really think this is well demonstrated in the second season of Picard when they end up in 2024. It’s very subtle but well done how the characters react to a world with massive suffering and social issues compared to what they’re accustomed to in the Federation.
Wow, you’re missing a LOT of context for the jokes if you’ve never seen any other Star Trek. Still, it’s a credit to them that you can enjoy it regardless.
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But people complain about the newer iterations of Trek being ‘woke’ for introducing all flavor of LGBTQIA+ characters, tackling hot button issues, and just generally showing love and equality for all. Yet they seem to be completely blind to the fact that the original series started all of this by being ‘woke’ at the time. Having a black woman on the bridge who was treated as an equal, a Japanese man treated as an equal. Even a Russian with Chekov. People forget that at the time this was a little bit insane to show on TV. Now it’s like “Oh well, yeah, of course! They were just being awesome!” No. They were being the 60s equivalent of woke. That only continued in The Next Generation by introducing more people of color, people with disabilities of all sorts, and more intense subject matter. Got even more intense (and darker) in DS9. Voyager is guilty of the same thing. Enterprise as well but it’s the younger sibling people talk less about so it doesn’t get as much praise in that department. Probably because of alien nazis but blame Voyager for starting that with the Hirogen.
Anyway.
Point being that Star Trek has been woke since the start but people wanna ignore that and just whine about people different than them because they’re either cowards who are afraid change, who are hateful bigots who don’t want others to have happiness, or who are fools that believe the world revolves around them.
That or they’re just plain fucking stupid.
I’d say it’s not even woke, it’s an ideal. The Federation is symbolic of a utopian society, something that could be achieved through cooperation and tolerance and understanding.
I really think this is well demonstrated in the second season of Picard when they end up in 2024. It’s very subtle but well done how the characters react to a world with massive suffering and social issues compared to what they’re accustomed to in the Federation.
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Star Trek has always always been moral plays set in space. Politics has been integral to it since the beginning.
Wow, you’re missing a LOT of context for the jokes if you’ve never seen any other Star Trek. Still, it’s a credit to them that you can enjoy it regardless.
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Meanwhile, I love Star Trek (mostly the older stuff) and think LD is the best modern Trek show.
Watch it, enjoy it, ignore the fans.
No one hates ST more than Trekkies.