• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    348 months ago

    My launcher shows that I have 379 games from Epic. Not DLC, not demos. Full games.

    I have never given Epic a single cent and I never will. (That is to say, until they offer me something that makes me want to use their platform). They have no killer features - AT ALL.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      208 months ago

      To make it worse, I have all these games, but I still rarely play them. Not that it’s a bad selection, but between steamdeck, gamepass and just a crazy backlog on Steam makes me rarely think of Epic store.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        218 months ago

        Well that’s at the crux of it, indeed. Steam has these killer features that enable and empower me as a gamer.

        Then there’s Epic that still doesn’t have controller support.

          • Brawler Yukon
            link
            fedilink
            English
            -7
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            That’s disingenuous. The games have controller support, as you’d expect them to. EGS itself doesn’t have an outside-the-games input layer like Steam Input.

            But you can always load up an EGS game in Steam as a non-Steam game and have full access to Steam Input on it that way, so why would Epic spend time and effort re-inventing the wheel when they have other priorities?

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              128 months ago

              But you can always load up an EGS game in Steam as a non-Steam game and have full access to Steam Input on it that way, so why would Epic spend time and effort re-inventing the wheel when they have other priorities?

              Why would Epic implement a feature when I could just run Epic games through Steam? Why don’t I just use Steam then?

              • @Squirrelanna
                link
                English
                18 months ago

                Maybe the game was free on EGS but not on Steam?

                  • @Squirrelanna
                    link
                    English
                    18 months ago

                    You’re right and it never was. Because the game is free on one platform and not the other in this scenario.

            • Carlos Solís
              link
              fedilink
              English
              88 months ago

              More accurately: the games have support for Xbox styled controllers, because Windows ships with support for that. However, they usually don’t have support for PlayStation controllers unless the game actively adds support for them, or Steam Input deals with converting the controller inputs to Xbox format on the fly. Most of the time, Epic exclusives do neither of the above.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              68 months ago

              Ok cool that makes way more sense.

              But… If I am gonna buy the game elsewhere and then port it into steam, for no discount… Why not just buy it on steam, and not bother with the extra steps?

              And by that I mean, it sounds like a waste of time to buy from epic, since I get more features for the same price elsewhere. So whats such an important priority?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          08 months ago

          Hey man, it provided value to my life… its a fun game, i play it quite a bit. Plus half of that was for my kid, he would ask for vbucks every birthday and Christmas for years.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -138 months ago

      The “killer feature” is that they pay more to the developers, so if you are getting the exact same game on (e.g.) Steam versus Epic Games, then whomever actually made the game gets more money from the Epic sale. Isn’t that a good thing?

      (Note that I may be conflating the publisher with the developer, but either way, it’s still the case that less money is taken by intermediaries, which is a good thing.)

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        218 months ago

        Except they only do that because its the only way to get publishers to use them over steam, and once they have a reliable customer base they will reneg on that generosity to gain profit.

        We know this business strategy. It will not stay that way.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            98 months ago

            this is how we get companies like walmart and amazon.

            they roll in, throwing bags of money into a bottomless pit as long as it takes to amass a large customer base and ruin existing competitors. Then they start enshittifying, and everyone wonders where all the competition went.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            98 months ago

            Until then, what? You as the consumer have no incentive to use their worse service, and publishers clearly arent that enticed by it for how few exclusives the store gets?

            Or until then, you want to reward a bait and switch that you know is a bait and switch to try and trick you into using a worse product?

            Which option are you excited about here?

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              -18 months ago

              Their service is in no way worse: I buy games, and I get them.

              I’m excited about the fact that someone provides an alternative to the monopoly that is Steam.

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    18 months ago

                    Ok, and? All you need is water and moldy bread to not die, that doesnt mean water and moldy bread are equivalent in quality to a 3 course meal.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        208 months ago

        That’s a reason for developers to use them, not for consumers to use them.

        EPICs anti-customer practices (such as trying to make everything exclusive) are reasons for consumers not to use them.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            18 months ago

            And are those because Steam is trying to pressure them into being exclusive on Steam? Or did they just not bother releasing anywhere else?

            If a developer just wants to release on Epic and nowhere else they can do that. My issue comes from Epic approaching games that have already announced a Steam release asking for exclusivity, and having no interest in hosting the game if they don’t accept the exclusivity offer.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        11
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        No, because epic has been engaging in anti consumer practices from the start. This is literally the only category epic has a leg up on steam, and if they didn’t need to bully their way into the marketplace, I have no reason to believe they’d treat creators any better than they currently do customers

        edit: The revelation that they are running the store at a loss just furthers me not believing they are helping developers from the goodness of their heart, it shows they’re likely running the Walmart strategy of using their vast wealth to choke out their competition until there is none, and then once they have a monopoly, jack everything up, which’d probably include their cut of the pie

      • Cosmic Cleric
        link
        fedilink
        English
        28 months ago

        Note that I may be conflating the publisher with the developer

        You think?

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          -28 months ago

          Yes, I do, or else I wouldn’t have mentioned it. I’d prefer the publisher gets money over a middleman store. Isn’t that preferable?

          • Cosmic Cleric
            link
            fedilink
            English
            38 months ago

            Its a phrase that signals something else, and not a literal content reply.

              • Cosmic Cleric
                link
                fedilink
                English
                08 months ago

                How about you write what you mean

                I did. Its a standard phrase used by people in conversation. See defintion #2 below.

                Below definition is from here

                you think

                1. A question one uses at the end of a sentence to express uncertainty. We’re not going to get into trouble—you think?
                2. A sarcastic rhetorical question used as a retort when someone states the obvious. A: “Wow, I bet that fire is really hot.” B: “You think?”

                and have quality conversation in the future?

                Quality is in the eye of the beholder, apparently. /shrug