(What makes this an unpopular opinion is that I’m basically advocating for jettisoning an entire Fediverse platform rather than just riding out the rough patch.)

I admin a Lemmy instance, and the amount of spam we get from Kbin and have to deal with is absolutely insane. Every morning I have to spend at least 15 minutes cleaning it up: responding to reports, banning accounts, purging posts, and pruning the images. And it’s more of that all through the day, just in smaller bites.

Many times I’ve toyed with the idea of de-federating Kbin instances completely, but I don’t want to cut off interactions with their legit users. The legit users are not the problem and are very much welcome.

Side note: If you’re reading this and thinking “What Kbin spam?”, then you should reach out to your instance admin(s) and give them a big ‘thank you’. The spam from Kbin is not just a “me” problem.

The underlying issue is that Kbin mod actions do not federate to Lemmy. At all. The mods of their magazines can (and probably are) doing a great job cleaning up spam, but once that spam goes out, it’s a one-way trip to Lemmy and completely up to the instance admins to deal with. For comparison, on Lemmy, the community mods can remove the spam which will then issue a removal action on instances that received it via federation.

I’ve tried various ways to unsubscribe and remove Kbin communities on my instance, but the “unsubscribe” doesn’t seem to be honored by Kbin, either. So I’m stuck receiving content that’s 90%+ spam and having to deal with it every day with no end in sight (barring de-federating Kbin completely). The only thing that sort-of works is hiding the Kbin magazines on my end, but that just hides the spam, too, and I’m still stuck storing it on my system.

So yeah, life for Lemmy admins would be easier if Kbin users would make the switch and I could just de-fed from Kbin without losing the good people.

  • @Electromagnetic
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    18 months ago

    I would just defederate and tell those users if they want to see your instance then they’d better clean up their own first.

    Would you invite someone over to your house who makes a mess every time? Eventually you’re going to get sick of cleaning up their messes and tell them to stop coming to your house.

    • @[email protected]
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      108 months ago

      Kbin mods probably do clean up their own.
      But their cleaning doesn’t federate (ie a mod deleting a post won’t issue a federation deletion request)

      • Bonehead
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        38 months ago

        That sounds like a software problem, not a moderation problem.

        • amio
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          18 months ago

          It is. I prefer kbin to lemmy but there’s no denying it’s kinda shaky, feature-wise. Also ernest the maintainer (the, as far as I know) has gotten absolutely slammed with the workload and other factors, apparently.