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    There is a difference between genetics and eugenics. Eugenics seeks to modify progeny in order to weed out defects and promote certain characteristics. He is not propping up that line-of-thought. He is speaking to the genetic predisposition of ethnic groups. We all belong to different genotypes/phenotypes. I’m ashkenazi. We pretty much run everything and solve big problems. It’s kind of what we do. There was a ton of genetic variation in Africa. I don’t think that Sowell even was attempting to imply less IQ among black people and was showing a similar gradient as compared to other genetic backgrounds. His whole argument is nurture over nature. Systemic racism is just racism. Sure, there was some past redlining, but those issues have been corrected. I had nothing to do with past redlining and my taxes shouldn’t have to make concessions.

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      I had nothing to do with past redlining and my taxes shouldn’t have to make concessions.

      What are you even talking about now?

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        The argument that CRT people make is that generational wealth was deprived from black people because tactics were used to keep them out of neighborhoods with nice houses and/or many banks did not want to provide them with mortgages. This is called redlining and it didn’t just happen to black people. Jews and many others had these issues too. While the other ethnic groups on average have grown into middle class society, the crutch of Affirmative Action and endless welfare checks have simply caused the creation of overpopulated drug ghettos.

        • Flying Squid
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          11 year ago

          This has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. You clearly have nothing further to add.

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            I successfully defended my source and his notions. That’s what I contributed. He’s a champion of the black community. People should listen to him.

            • Flying Squid
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              Sure he is. Weird how few black people you will find that accept him as their champion. Pretty much only the Republican ones.

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                  Cute. You’ve been talking about what would be better for black people and how they should abandon their community and now you accuse me of speaking for black people.

                  But sure, the vast majority black people who all have a culture that Thomas Sowell hates agree with him. Logical. I don’t see how I never saw that before.

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                    I think most black people want to fix the criminal anti-education elements of their culture that are keeping them all down. In the same vein, I hope for the Hasids to abandon their culture of collective trauma ghettos because they make my culture look really bad. Also, the whole thing in Israel. 😬 I prefer my government without a side of religion.

                    Have been reading all the classic political literature including Plato’s Republic, Locke’s Treatises, De Tocqueville’s Democracy in America, etc. and they all promote seperation of church and state. They also recognize that colonialism can be damaging. Also, that the way that a society deals with inheritance dictates a lot of things. Lastly that education and a culture of caring about your community and quality work ethic are key.

                    To summarize, the writings over the past 2k+ years are still easier to read than I could have possibly imagined and the context repeats itself over and over again. It’s pretty crazy. It always says that cultures that value education and work ethic succeed. Sowell mentions that the cultures that act as the middleman between different economies become the most prosperous, but also are the scapegoats when things aren’t looking too good. The blacks that I have hired come from backgrounds that prize education. They are liberal, but follow Sowell’s principles. They have learned the tough engineering skills that I’ve taught them, but have a knack for dealing with our customers with a human touch that I can’t always bring to the table. I’m just saying that more people need to adopt their version of the culture.