• @samokosik
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    -67 months ago

    Issue is many young people don’t realize it’s mostly Hamas ruining people’s lives and many older ones cannot admit mistakes made by Israel.

    Or people are just completely on one side (which is imho impossible). Either they support Israel or they support Palestine and want Israel out. You know how few balanced opinions I have seen?

    • Ghost33313
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      167 months ago

      Exactly, and the few being balanced part is what drives us crazy. My wife is Jewish and has family in Israel. While we hate Hamas we dislike the orthodox Jews almost as much. Even with everything going on we care for the Palestinians that are mixed up with this and acknowledge both sides are truly bad in this. The enemy is Hamas not Palestine. Israel the nation isn’t the problem, it’s Netanyahu and company. None of that matters however as she has been spit on and treated like shit ever since this started just for her ethnicity.

      There is so much information warfare going on and I am sure of it. As soon as that first hospital blew up, media immediately blamed the IDF before any evidence was out. Then all evidence pointed to Hamas being responsible and it barely got covered. Hamas is using hospitals as hiding spots at the very least. Meanwhile they do their best to heard and trap civilians into the crossfire while the IDF steamrolls. The whole situation is just fucked.

      It is just so aggravating how everyone treats this as a black and white struggle like Ukraine when it is anything but. It’s two shitheads fighting; with Israel at least having dissenters while Palestine is run like a dictatorship. That’s the only simple part.

      • @[email protected]
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        27 months ago

        It is black and white, many Israelis don’t approve of IDF committing genocide and murdering thousands of civilians. But hey, Hamas did some stuff…

        • @samokosik
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          47 months ago

          Whats black and white? This conflict? Not at all mate. First of all, IDF is not committing genocide. If they were, the number of Palestinians would not double in last 70-ish years. Killing unintentionally around 10k civilians (less than 0.5% of the Gaza’s population) because terrorists were hiding between them and Hamas built no shelters is not a genocide. I do not approve killing civilians but calling this genocide is very inaccurate. Secondly, Hamas is a terrorist organization which wants to eliminate Israel (plus 12 million Jews) and they have to be removed as soon as possible.

          However, Israel has also been illegally occupying areas of the West Bank despite UN’s and Israeli supreme court’s decision, so they are not angels either.

          Hence why the conflict is anything but black and white.