Not sure if this is enlightened centrism or not but avoiding voting all together doesn’t solve anything either because one of the 2 will be elected regardless.
In the US there are only 2 possible winners, a democrat or a republican. Not voting or voting 3rd party is the same as throwing your vote in the trash because of the way the US system works.
So your choice if you want to change something is to vote for the one that has the highest chance of working towards your goals, and that is a democrat, even if almost everything they currently do is awful. Because if a republican wins, your concerns aren’t even going to get into ear reach of them.
Either participate and vote to try to change something or accept that you’re discarding your already limited political power by taking this moral stance, and in the process also making the problems you’re concerned about worse.
What if all the people chanting better than trump voted independent?
What if you guys did something other than the same thing we always do?
Either participate and vote to try to change something or accept that you’re discarding your already limited political power by taking this moral stance, and in the process also making the problems you’re concerned about worse.
Voting blue is not voting for change its voting for “not worse”. And even then it will still get worse under dems
You’re defending this system by continuing to buy into it.
I voted blue every time I voted, and we still have genocide supply. Its unacceptable, and thus I will not accept it.
Please understand that in a capitalistic hell like the US only the candidates with a lot of money and influence have a chance. No 3rd party has even a remote chance of reaching enough people to secure the votes you would need to tip the scales.
“what if all these people voted x” is a fun theory to have in your head but it will never materialize because the US system in its current form is designed to create voter apathy and politically disenfranchise people, making such goals impossible.
Like someone said above, make changes at a local level so you can start reforming the system, but by not participating you’re literally just making it worse for everyone. Stop letting perfection be the enemy of good.
Also, as if genocide is the only issue that matters here. Republicans are trying to violate every human right possible. If that isn’t enough to move you I don’t know what is.
And if I’m a genocide apologist by your logic then so are you for not voting while knowing that one of the 2 genocide apologists will be chosen. Have fun sleeping at night.
what if all these people voted x" is a fun theory to have in your head but it will never materialize because the US system
I want you to realize this. YOU are the reason more people dont vote for 3rd party. You are here actively telling people that the only valid vote is for dems. That doing anything else is throwing your vote away. YOU are the problem.
They were saying this same thing when Al Gore was running against George bush in the 2000 Presidential race. Where has it gotten us?
It has led us here. where the dems are cutting checks for genocide.
It is completely unacceptable.
You are a genocide apologist becuase you sit here acknowledging how flawed the system is while still demanding that people play into it.
Its ridiculous.
You say that the American system is flawed, and give many examples but then you tell me to vote for the same party that has either been wholly complicit in the corruption of the american system or so powerless too stop Republicans from doing so!
Either way a vote for dems is throwing your vote away. You will either elect an existing genocider or a new one!
Also, as if genocide is the only issue that matters here.
I’m also mad about the bait-&-switch with student loans cancellation. And a lot of other things. The only reason you to vote for biden is not trump. And thats fucking stupid.
not voting while knowing that one of the 2 genocide apologists will be chosen
Is this supposed to make me want to participate? It just shows how much we should all be voting 3rd.
The same course is better than one that drives straight into a wall at 100mph.
Trump is just going to encourage the current genocide. He is going to further destroy environmental protections and stiffle our efforts to prevent climate change from worsening.
At least under Biden the EPA doesn’t let oil companies shit directly into our mouths.
You’ve been attacking the Dems for this, but why do you believe the Republicans will do differently? Or were you talking about independent?
I don’t believe repubs will be better. I just consider them two parts of a single flawed system.
By voting for either of them you support both parties.
Not sure if this is enlightened centrism or not but avoiding voting all together doesn’t solve anything either because one of the 2 will be elected regardless.
In the US there are only 2 possible winners, a democrat or a republican. Not voting or voting 3rd party is the same as throwing your vote in the trash because of the way the US system works.
So your choice if you want to change something is to vote for the one that has the highest chance of working towards your goals, and that is a democrat, even if almost everything they currently do is awful. Because if a republican wins, your concerns aren’t even going to get into ear reach of them.
Either participate and vote to try to change something or accept that you’re discarding your already limited political power by taking this moral stance, and in the process also making the problems you’re concerned about worse.
What if all the people chanting better than trump voted independent?
What if you guys did something other than the same thing we always do?
Voting blue is not voting for change its voting for “not worse”. And even then it will still get worse under dems You’re defending this system by continuing to buy into it.
I voted blue every time I voted, and we still have genocide supply. Its unacceptable, and thus I will not accept it.
Have fun being a genocide apologist.
Team A wins: genocide Team B wins: genocide
Vote A, B, or neither?
Vote A: Team A or B wins. Still genocide.
Vote B: Team A or B wins. Still genocide.
Vote neither: Team A or B wins. Still genocide.
By not voting, or voting third party, the outcome is still genocide. You’re still a part of the system.
By telling us how bad it is to vote because of this, you’re ignoring every other issue. Some of them human rights.
Congrats, you’re making the USA a worse place.
Please understand that in a capitalistic hell like the US only the candidates with a lot of money and influence have a chance. No 3rd party has even a remote chance of reaching enough people to secure the votes you would need to tip the scales.
“what if all these people voted x” is a fun theory to have in your head but it will never materialize because the US system in its current form is designed to create voter apathy and politically disenfranchise people, making such goals impossible.
Like someone said above, make changes at a local level so you can start reforming the system, but by not participating you’re literally just making it worse for everyone. Stop letting perfection be the enemy of good.
Also, as if genocide is the only issue that matters here. Republicans are trying to violate every human right possible. If that isn’t enough to move you I don’t know what is.
And if I’m a genocide apologist by your logic then so are you for not voting while knowing that one of the 2 genocide apologists will be chosen. Have fun sleeping at night.
I want you to realize this. YOU are the reason more people dont vote for 3rd party. You are here actively telling people that the only valid vote is for dems. That doing anything else is throwing your vote away. YOU are the problem.
They were saying this same thing when Al Gore was running against George bush in the 2000 Presidential race. Where has it gotten us?
It has led us here. where the dems are cutting checks for genocide.
It is completely unacceptable. You are a genocide apologist becuase you sit here acknowledging how flawed the system is while still demanding that people play into it.
Its ridiculous.
You say that the American system is flawed, and give many examples but then you tell me to vote for the same party that has either been wholly complicit in the corruption of the american system or so powerless too stop Republicans from doing so!
Either way a vote for dems is throwing your vote away. You will either elect an existing genocider or a new one!
I’m also mad about the bait-&-switch with student loans cancellation. And a lot of other things. The only reason you to vote for biden is not trump. And thats fucking stupid.
Is this supposed to make me want to participate? It just shows how much we should all be voting 3rd.
Voting for one of them is our only choice if we wish to influence the course of our country.
Voting for dems is the SAME course we are already on.
How can you not see this. This is what we have been doing for decades.
The same course is better than one that drives straight into a wall at 100mph.
Trump is just going to encourage the current genocide. He is going to further destroy environmental protections and stiffle our efforts to prevent climate change from worsening.
At least under Biden the EPA doesn’t let oil companies shit directly into our mouths.
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