Fairphone has created a smartphone that owners can repair themselves - This sustainable smartphone aims to reduce global electronic waste::In a bid to reduce global electronic waste, Fairphone has created a smartphone that owners can repair themselves. What makes its technology so sustainable?

  • KptnAutismus
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    817 months ago

    the main complaint from me is still the headphone jack. they faced insane backlash when they released the FP4. i thought this company cares about the user as well as the environment. but it seems they didn’t realize that people want actual features (like wireless charging, the headphone jack, or a usable battery size).

    don’t get me wrong, i own a Fairphone 4 and love using it. but making these mistakes 2 times in a row now is just pathetic.

    • @[email protected]
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      427 months ago

      Not including wireless charging IS caring about the environment. Wireless charging is extremely wasteful and inefficient.

      • @[email protected]
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        237 months ago

        It’s inefficient for energy, but it’s efficient at saving charging cords. My girlfriend goes through one lightning cord a year.

        A phone only needs like 5 watt hours a day max, which is a cost of 365 * $0.08 * 0.005 = $0.15 a year at local prices

        • @[email protected]
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          167 months ago

          I feel like having to replace charging cords is an Apple issue specifically.

          I’m horrified by the amount of time my wife had to replace her Mac charger because the cord was breaking.

          I don’t think I ever had to replace the cord on any of my laptop, replacing the charger because the cord is breaking has never been a consideration before.

          • ChouxFleur
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            97 months ago

            I’ve found that breaking cables is a personal issue. I still have an old usb Xbox 360 controller for pc gaming from when I owned an xbox. My partner has destroyed cables for laptops, hairdryers, headphones in less than 12 months.

            Some cables are objectively worse than others (macbook chargers I’m looking at you) but a modicum of care generally is enough to make sure they last without too much hassle.

        • N-E-N
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          67 months ago

          I work retail, people come in with broken Apple cables more than almost any other cable.

          Surprisingly these people are also often very picky with getting the Apple-Branded cables as well, even USB C

        • @[email protected]
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          27 months ago

          I have only had one charging cable “break” (the cable sheath separated from the plug sheath, it was still usable and had no exposed wires since they all had their own additional sheath) since I stopped using Apple/Samsung phones as my daily driver.

          I think the issue is crappy cables that are then super expensive so that they can continue milking you for every penny you are worth.

        • @[email protected]
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          17 months ago

          it’s efficient at saving charging cords.

          How does the wireless charger connect to power again?

          • @[email protected]
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            17 months ago

            You don’t need to replug it daily. Usually the cord doesn’t break, actually, it’s the connector at the end of the cord

      • KptnAutismus
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        47 months ago

        Then don’t use it. people who want to switch expect basic features like this for double the price.

    • @[email protected]
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      367 months ago

      “we want to reduce e-waste by forcing everyone to throw out their wired headphones and buy a new set of wireless ones every couple of years when the battery goes dead”

      The hypocrisy enrages me here

      • @[email protected]
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        197 months ago

        I’ve been using the same pair of Sony XB50AP wired headphones for over 7 years now. It works fine (although not great) even after going through couple washing machine cycles. Meanwhile my wireless WH1000XM3 broke after 2 years of use.

        Also I own an Android with no headphone jack, so I have to use a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle. And I can feel it’s slowly destroying the type C port’s connectors on my phone everytime I plug the dongle in, making the headphone connection sometimes not even recognizeable on my phone.

        • @[email protected]
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          97 months ago

          The WH-1000XM3 have repairable batteries. You can buy them online, and pop them in after undoing two screws

          • @[email protected]
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            17 months ago

            Thanks for the headsup but mine broke because of something wrong inside the device, probably something wrong with the pcb (might be water corrosion or something). Plus the headband on WH1000XM3 is just so easy to broke. I’ve replace both side of the headband just because it’s designed very poorly.

      • @[email protected]
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        87 months ago

        There are wireless earbuds with repairable batteries. Just not Fairbuds, which have soldered batteries (LOL!)

    • @[email protected]
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      187 months ago

      The problem is there is no competition here. I’d love to see several repairable smartphones with slightly different features that create some competition. For example something with a max 5.5” screen and only a single camera.

      • KptnAutismus
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        107 months ago

        Yes, absolutely. fairphone themselves say they want to create competition by making the fairphones. sadly, no one has really fully committed to this.

      • Liška
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        37 months ago

        Actually, there is at least one other company specializing in sustainable / repairable electronics - besides Fairphone - I’m aware of.

        Check out Shiftphone: Their new Shiftphone 8 (still under development / construction) will be a pretty solid deal with a reasonable price-performance ratio - already pre ordered mine and very excited for final delivery in March.

        … Their previous models as well as spare parts, etc. are also still available through their shop.

    • @[email protected]
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      147 months ago

      Usable battery size? The FP5 has a 4200mah battery which is about 500mah less than the s23 plus which is pretty reasonable and I’ve found it very usable for day to day use. Wireless charing is a pointless gimmick personally and I don’t see the utility of it. Lack of a headphone jack is a pain though.

      • @[email protected]
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        67 months ago

        Wireless charging is a good alternative to have when your usb-c port breaks.

        Of course, with Fairphone is is less of an issue since replacing those is like 15€.

      • Cethin
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        47 months ago

        I thought the same of wireless charging before I tried it. I now have a charger on my desk that I sit my phone on whenever I’m there. Charging isn’t something I ever even think about now. It just is charged.

        • @[email protected]
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          37 months ago

          I’ve just never had that be a problem for me. I’ve had wireless charging phones before and I never really felt having a wireless charger any more convenient than just plugging my phone in. Really the only time I used wireless charging was on an old phone when the micro-b port failed but with the advent of type c being and the ease of swapping a charging port on the FP5 it just seems to be adding needless expense to the device to have a less efficient method of charging the device.

    • @[email protected]
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      67 months ago

      Jep their decision that I shouldn’t waste energy is the reason i don’t want one(wireless charging)

      • KptnAutismus
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        67 months ago

        plus it’s easy as heck to add during development, i simply don’t get why they didn’t include it.

    • @[email protected]
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      67 months ago

      My guess for the real reason is that they buy off-the-shelf components from suppliers and don’t have enough money to design and order a custom motherboard with a headphone jack.

      • KptnAutismus
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        287 months ago

        they designed the whole thing themselves. that’s why the schematics are publicly available. they definetely made a choice to fuck over users.