This is a stupid take. You’re tired of the people who own and use a platform controlling that platform to represent their morals? If you want a platform to host bigotry, you should make one. They often do so well. Just because someone has something to stupid say doesn’t mean others have to tolerate it in their home or place of business.
Nexusmods are doing what they believe is the right thing to attain the highest profit, it’s no more complex than that.
The people in charge voted on where the line in the sand should be (to simplify the corporate process somewhat) and homophobia, they decided, should be on the wrong side. They figure that inclusivity, rather than bigotry, is the way to more customers. (I mean, duh.)
They are entitled to do just that, as the modder is to mod the game how he sees fit.
It is not bigotry to be intolerant of the intolerant, that pathetic argument has been dead since before you were born.
It’s fascinating watching how quickly my side has forgotten the state and corporate censorship of the 2000s. I don’t enjoy defending rightoids but I remember being on the losing side and I’d rather be principled now than on the backfoot again when the pendulum swings back.
There’s nothing stopping the modder hosting it somewhere that is tolerant or even supportive of their ignorant beliefs.
No-one is making any way be the only option.
Nexusmods isn’t the only place it could be, just to state that again, in simple enough terms it might make a dent.
Once more, just to be sure; Nexusmods has no control over other file hosting services, ergo they cannot “make it their way”. They can only choose what to have on their own site, nowhere else.
Did that penetrate your tin foil hat?
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Modding a game to suit what you wanna play isn’t intolerant.
It is when it’s stated aim is to erase the existence of a specific subset of individuals based on a protected characteristic.
It is, in fact, almost the very fucking definition of intolerance.
You’re either completely ignorant and arguing for the sake of it, or you support, and are arguing for, sowing more of this kind of pointless culture wars shite.
(Which was created by the rich, solely to distract us all from the long overdue class war. Kill the fucking rich, not the other poor bastards in the same boat as you. 👍)
Platforms with near-monopoly level control of public discussion should be considered part of the public forum. This weird libertarianism from “lefties” deeply concerns me.
Nobody made you open up a social space to the public, and nobody is making you keep it open. Also I want you to explain how you can reconcile being on the left but also supporting corporate rights over those of individual humans?
Why should anyone get to own the only effective avenues of communication? Communication is what determines how the world works.
Who currently owns the “only effective avenues of communication”?
CP is illegal obviously, and jihad doesn’t make sense in the cute cats category the way ‘straight only game mod’ makes sense in the ‘game mod’ category.
“Sometimes you gotta put up with some ugly if you don’t want people silenced for their perspective.” Seems there’s a limit to the ugly you’re willing to put up with, and you’re quite willing to silence perspectives yourself.
You cleaely still want people to moderate social networks. I assume you’d want these people to outside the company?
Hell, we’re on a site where you can literally filter what content you see. No one is so pro communication that they’ll happily chat away to someone that they don’t want to be around.
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This is a stupid take. You’re tired of the people who own and use a platform controlling that platform to represent their morals? If you want a platform to host bigotry, you should make one. They often do so well. Just because someone has something to stupid say doesn’t mean others have to tolerate it in their home or place of business.
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Nexusmods are doing what they believe is the right thing to attain the highest profit, it’s no more complex than that.
The people in charge voted on where the line in the sand should be (to simplify the corporate process somewhat) and homophobia, they decided, should be on the wrong side. They figure that inclusivity, rather than bigotry, is the way to more customers. (I mean, duh.)
They are entitled to do just that, as the modder is to mod the game how he sees fit.
It is not bigotry to be intolerant of the intolerant, that pathetic argument has been dead since before you were born.
It’s fascinating watching how quickly my side has forgotten the state and corporate censorship of the 2000s. I don’t enjoy defending rightoids but I remember being on the losing side and I’d rather be principled now than on the backfoot again when the pendulum swings back.
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I see you are incapable of reading, so I’ll just restate this to make it simple for you:
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There’s nothing stopping the modder hosting it somewhere that is tolerant or even supportive of their ignorant beliefs.
No-one is making any way be the only option.
Nexusmods isn’t the only place it could be, just to state that again, in simple enough terms it might make a dent.
Once more, just to be sure; Nexusmods has no control over other file hosting services, ergo they cannot “make it their way”. They can only choose what to have on their own site, nowhere else.
Did that penetrate your tin foil hat?
Also:
It is when it’s stated aim is to erase the existence of a specific subset of individuals based on a protected characteristic.
It is, in fact, almost the very fucking definition of intolerance.
You’re either completely ignorant and arguing for the sake of it, or you support, and are arguing for, sowing more of this kind of pointless culture wars shite.
(Which was created by the rich, solely to distract us all from the long overdue class war. Kill the fucking rich, not the other poor bastards in the same boat as you. 👍)
So private platform and private parties shouldn’t have the right to moderate and regulate their own spaces?
Platforms with near-monopoly level control of public discussion should be considered part of the public forum. This weird libertarianism from “lefties” deeply concerns me.
A public forum, I assume paid for and maintained by the taxes of the public?
Nobody made you open up a social space to the public, and nobody is making you keep it open. Also I want you to explain how you can reconcile being on the left but also supporting corporate rights over those of individual humans?
You didn’t answer my question.
Who would pay for the platform, and who would moderate it? Or do you just want even more hate speech to spread?
I see, you cannot reconcile being on the left with supporting corporations over people. Not surprised but thank you for confirming.
Sorry, life got in the way. I’m not surprised you’re not familiar with such matters.
I am surprised how much you support spreading hate speech by removing the ability of moderation.
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Really? Now I’m curious, how do you imagine that?
I assume the company still pays for the platform, hosting, development, etc. Since it’s public, are they now subsidised by taxes?
Who moderates the platforms then? Are is it all just unmoderated?
Will companies get compansated for lost revenue?
I genuinely curious how you imagine this working.
Yeah, because it’s theirs. They own it.
If I let everyone into my house for a party, doesn’t mean I lose the right to kick people out.
I’m okay with an echo chamber if it means I don’t have to put up with CP and jihadi execution footage in my cute cat feed.
I assume it would be no problem for you.
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Who currently owns the “only effective avenues of communication”?
“Sometimes you gotta put up with some ugly if you don’t want people silenced for their perspective.” Seems there’s a limit to the ugly you’re willing to put up with, and you’re quite willing to silence perspectives yourself.
You cleaely still want people to moderate social networks. I assume you’d want these people to outside the company?
Hell, we’re on a site where you can literally filter what content you see. No one is so pro communication that they’ll happily chat away to someone that they don’t want to be around.
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Ah, so you’re pro moderation when you personally find the contect to be even indirectly harmful.
“Double standards are bad, no matter which side.”