Christian Science does not agree with the theory that morals grow out of people's behavior. It stands firmly on the ground that morals for mankind are derived from the divine Mind, God, and that they are therefore ageless. Morally right behavior pertaining to sex was revealed by Moses. Christ Jesus unveiled more of the spiritual basis of the moral law, but of this law he said, "I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matt. 5:17;
Mrs. Eddy in her revelation of Christian Science shows us that human behavior in accord with the moral law is scientifically related to divine Truth. And in this scientific relationship we find the basis for the healing of sin. That homosexuality is a deviation from the moral law is made plain in the Bible, where it is recorded that the Lord spoke to Moses saying, "If a man ... lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them." Lev. 20:13;
In Jesus' Sermon on the Mount we find the harshness of the Mosaic law modified. We also find emphasis placed more on motives than on overt acts. But we do not find any actual change in the rightness or wrongness of behavior in regard to sex. Lust is explained as a thing of the heart, and Christian Science shows that the motives of the heart govern the acts of the body as well as the health of the body.
There is nothing that cannot be cured.
When the cure comes from God, it is called miracle.
Look up Padre Pio. It hasn’t been that long since his death.
If you really want to be cured, let me know.
Padre Pio was one of the biggest scammer southern Italy was ever plagued by and he did more damages to this land than any of the mafia family living there has ever done.
I’m glad he died the horrible way he did and I hope he is now rotting in a metaphorical hell where he belong.
Source: I’m an Italian who has seen the mental and social damages caused by this fucker
Where can I read about his death? All I find on Google is religious crap
He died of an heart attack at 81 years old, just like a normal man would do. No golden carriage descending from the heavens to collect his body nor no resurrection three days after his death.
A con man dying like a normal human after a life of lies and peddled “miracles” to poor, uneducated people.
Press S to spit on his grave
You are in real bondage.
I don’t expect you to love him.
Exhibiting ignorance again.
LGBTQ+ has all your judgements sideways.
Press J for Jesus.
S
Until proven contrary it’s not me who has decided to submit his will and reason to the tenets of a religion which doesn’t even consider treating men and women as equals.
A little projection about the bondage bit? Or a repressed sexual arousal around ropes and chains? Only you can tell us
Everybody is not like you.
I know you were more innocent when you were little.
You are exhibiting real hate. Do penance before it is too late.
There is no hate like christian love.
The bible says not to judge yet you’re judging Fabio and LGBTQ.
“1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
No hate from me dude, it’s you who is hating homosexual people because they love who they love, without choosing it and without any fault of their own. You really are a full-time projector, uhu? Never thought about working into cinemas? XD XD XD
That’s quite the bar.
And yet he was able to surpass it. A true miracle if one believe in them
More of a miracle than the bullshit he peddled, tbf.
Absolutely agree with you here, chief
Chief (a mark of loyalty).
God doesn’t demand much.
Why don’t you repent?
Because I don’t have anything to repent about. I bear no original sin and I haven’t done anything for which I haven’t given my apologies would I have ever hurt someone.
I don’t need to subject my loyalty to anyone if not myself as I alone am arbiter and judge of my own actions
Those who wants to repent should know that God is loving.
Are you also an Italian?
Not that it matters, southern Italy’s reputation is very much international, but yes.
No it doesn’t matter. I have video evidence of some of his works.
A very holy person can still be in LGBTQ+ country like America (Americans bear with me).
Padre Pio was a monk. He was met by different people with different problems.
You seem skilled in character aspersion.
Southern Italy in the time of the 2nd world war might be the bar for you…
So what do you have against Padre Pio (specific accusation like he robbed Mr. A).
youre literally arguing with a flat earther, check their username and post history. you arent going to reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.
dudes just detached from reality.
I know but still sometimes I cannot let go and I have to follow for a couple of days these kind of people just to remind them they are no longer in touch with this world, hoping that this will prevent them by spreading their nonsensical reasoning in real life by giving them a good dose of preemptive shame.
A long shot, I know, but a man has to indulge in some vices from time to time ;)
Have a great holiday season my dude <3
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Lmao, your ignorance about this subject shows immediately.
Padre Pio was considered a scammer by the Catholic church itself and was also found to be a fraud when visited by the doctors sent by the pope to determine if the scars he showed to his followers were of divine origin. When analysed the doctors found that they were most likely self inflicted wounds (there’s also the testimony of a pharmacist who sold this con man some carbolic acid) and that he was putting forward a show for his followers, so much so that he was denied the right to celebrate mass for his schemes. It was John Paul the 2nd who canonized him in 2002 because he realized that if he wanted the support of the gullible people in southern Italy he would have needed to give them something in return; and so he did, by making him a saint against the better judgment of Benedict the 15th and of Pio the 11th, the popes who lived during his times and who barred him from celebrating mass.
I’d love to give you some references to educate you but unfortunately most of the material is in Italian language and your ignorance prevents you from accessing it.
Padre Pio did not invent the microscope but he was able to create a cult worshipping his image in lieu of god, a sin which should be very grave according to the Christian faith tenets
No. You are a story teller. Your source is mainly calumny.
Anybody can do that to Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Padre Pio. In fact, stigmas of Christ is not something new in the Church.
When something miraculous begins, it has to be investigated.
According to my source, people wanted him out of the way.
According to my source, there was no carbolic acid mentioned.
According to my source, doctors examined with wonders (lots of blood loss).
He lived in a monastery. You don’t need a doctor to declare it was a fraud if it was really a fraud.
Perhaps the whole monastery was involved?
Pope Pius 11 had no letter against Padre Pio.
Your story is full of interpolations and holes.
And I see your trust in the ‘popes’ here.
Catholics don’t worship images. (Your ignorance again).
Padre Pio lived through the 1st and 2nd world war, and he fought modernism tooth and nail.
Please give me your Italian reference (even a child could read Italian these days).
Make sure it is Catholic (that is what you claimed) (or don’t worry, I will accept any link).
https://it.cathopedia.org/wiki/San_Pio_da_Pietrelcina
Is cathopedia catholic enough for you?
You are as ignorant as adamant in your ignorance so I don’t think this will make any difference for your bigoted mindset but still it’s funny to see you squirm while trying to justify your position.
I used the popes version of the story just because they should be considered the highest authority by people like you. If they did decide something that should be the law for all Catholics or are you suggesting you have more authority than the popes who lived during padre Pio’s time?
Catholics do worship images, have you ever heard of so called “holy cards”? Italy is full of it and in Pietrelcina there’s a very profitable business running around them.
Three lines under this statement
You really can’t make any sense, do you?
Even though I made repetitions? Too bad.
So what was I wrong about…
You don’t believe the article you sent me.
You only believe his prohibition (not condemnation) and not the reversion of the prohibition.
Don’t forget calumny was flying… (Time to pray).
Even St. Joseph of Cupertino had a similar condemnation and reversion story.
Like the link stated, he had many enemies who wanted him out of the way. He was misreported to Pius 11 probably.
Even St. Bernadette, they had the Grotto barred at first.
Many people in the course of History have been laid greater allegations, but at the end, the dark cloud normally clears.
And can you show me a link also where Catholics say they worship images?
https://www.amazon.it/artigianale-ricevi-SANTINI-RELIGIOSI-PREGHIERA/dp/B07DBNXTP2
Just 12 euros for a set of “santini” with dedicated prayers on the back! Hurry up, stock is low and gullible people are abound!
He refused to be visited by a doctor designated by the sant’Uffizio because he knew he would have been found a con. He was reinstated by people living well beyond his time and unable to corroborate or contradict his statements so it bear no weight in defining whether his wounds were of divine origin or not.
When exumed from his tomb his body presented the normal state of decay a cadaver should be at after 40 years.
He was a con man who had the luck to be born when the catholic church needed a con man to recover a bit of the influence it was losing due to people better education and he was used by the church itself exactly for this scope.
The same goes for the three poor children who were taken advantage of by the church with their story about Mary appearance. So far all the profecies related to their tale have been proven unfounded, will there ever be a time when Christians will wake up from their fever dreams and start acting as normal humans in social environments? Only time will tell
You mean the Dancing Sun of Fatima?
We, just like in the old Testament, we also have prophets. Most prophecies were about the great apostasy.
You are full of half-baked stories.
Italy is barely Catholic now. What are those two beads supposed to represent?
I suggest praying Rosaries instead. It is traditional, and has a lot of indulgences.
Delete all the images on all your devices, and brake all the statues in the law court and on every street.
Catholics pray with things and not to things.
It is better to look at an image of Jesus than to look at a bare wall.
Look at the mental damage religion has done to you. You believe “your source” over empirical evidence?
How weak.
Italian references!
He cured the blind, restored the deaf, and many more.
Thousands of miracles have been performed by different people in the past and yet we still have atheists.
Like I said, we are all born with a clean memory. If we read calumny, we will believe calumny.
But read about Padre Pio from a true source.
I need his sources.
You guys never seem to learn. LGBTQ+ has damaged people.
I’m sure many want to get back to normal.
Those that are strong will get back to normal.
Oh yeah and yesterday evening I have had a great sex encounter with both Mary Magdalene and Eve. They did very nice things to my cock and I did enjoy every minute with them.
Don’t believe me? It was a miracle, I don’t have to provide you with any proof and you cannot argue it didn’t happen
That is it. Perversion.
Those that are wise, will already see that this is perversion.
Ice cream is cold.
Coffee is hot.
One can move from whatever state he/she is currently in.
Those that want to change should really seek help from God.
God is everywhere.
And when you are converted, your speech won’t be pervasion, but words seasoned with salt.
No thanks, I’m not going to sit around waiting for some “miracle” to change something I actually quite love about myself.
Food is sweet, but not every substance is to be taken (poison, your 12-year old boy).
Eyeglasses to the eye, and knives to vegetables (things have purpose).
Syphilis is rightly a disorder, so is marriage with a boiling pot (dis + order).
Some people are bully, and they love that about themselves.
Your youthfulness will still fade,
You’ll grow old and will need another’s help.
You’ll die one day, and after death comes judgement.
If you love yourself, choose one suffering.
Suffering twice is: in this world and after judgement in hell.
A wise person will choose to suffer once.
We have to give God thanks for everything, even if not by miracle (by practice).
And what business is it of yours if that other is the same gender as me?
I went on to another topic.
Rebellious question.
If you are speaking of chores, there is nothing wrong with chores.
You can cook with a pot. Use a pot for cooking and not for marriage.
What does that even mean?
🎄 Joyful Christmas in advance.
Happy holidays to you too. What does using a pot for marriage mean?
Well. If you are young, may God preserve your innocency. If you are not young; it means that eyeglasses goes to the eye while knives goes to vegetables.
Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Everything other than that is a perversion.
Doing things done in marriage outside of marriage is a perversion.
Summary of all is this: Always seek what pleases God in all you do.
It sounded like you were talking about the same thing to me. Besides, why is that relevant? Moving on to another topic doesn’t mean you don’t have to answer questions about the previous one.
Is that an insult where you come from? Because it’s a compliment around here. You’re a stranger on the internet, not my dad. Why should I look up to you?
Besides, even if you were my dad, I was raised to question my parents and make my own decisions once I was old enough to understand. We ask questions to arrive at the truth, not to more accurately ascertain the will of whoever has the most authority.
Lots of strawman.
May your decisions help you avoid hell.
I’ll take the change for judgement - getting fucked in the ass by something else then the government feels great
I am talking about Christianity.
Government is people (president, vice, ministers, senators).
They too eat and go to toilet.
You shouldn’t fear them (but you must not commit crime/killings).
Drones and robots are man-made.
Just like bombs, gun etc.
If they kill people, know that man/evil government… (pressed the KILL button).
Every man/government will be judged by God.
The fatal combination of unintelligent, condescending, and bigoted.
If heaven was real, you wouldn’t be going there.