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I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

  • @[email protected]
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    -1111 months ago

    Why not? It’s the one fundamental differences when comparing this conflict with the Nazi extermination of jews (and others).

    The jews didn’t massacre German civilians before their attempted annihilation.

    It’s not much of a difference, in the entire score of things, but both Hamas and the idf have blood on their hands. Neither have done things benificial to the Palestinian people. The October attack was a strategic mistake of the highest order.

    At the time support for the Netanyahu regime was falling, people were demonstrating. They had literally nothing to gain. They actually played right into bibi’s hand.

    Not that I approve of the Israeli reaction, it’s horrible and indeed a case study on the banality of evil. It is completely outside of all proportions. To say that only one side is to blame, is wrong. Without oct 7 this would never have happened. To deny that you would have to prove that it was a false flag attack.

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      11 months ago

      History didn’t start on October 7th mate. Isreal has been exterminateing Palestinians for a long time.

      Not that it matters, trying to “both sides” this is like trying to both sides the Holocaust because of the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

      To say that only one side is to blame, is wrong.

      Isreal is 100 percent, unilaterally to blame

      Without oct 7 this would never have happened

      this was happening before October 7th. For fucks sake, what is that makes people like you feel the need to spout their opinion on things they don’t know the slightest thing about.

      • @[email protected]
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        -311 months ago

        I do get the analogy of the Warsaw ghetto, I’ve used the same analogy before.

        But the relationship between hamas and the Israeli governement is very curious. If say I’m not on the both sides kind of thing, but on the ‘one of three’. The Palestinian people are suffering under the war mongering of both hamas and the idf. Just like not one hundred procent of Israelis are behind the actions of the idf, most Palestinian people aren’t responsable for the actions of Hamas.

        It’s way more complicated than the binary issue you lot try to make it off it and frankly that is tiring and obtuse.

        • @[email protected]
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          1011 months ago

          No it really isn’t; the genocide currently being perpetuated by the Israel is one of the greatest atrocities of our time, and irrelevant bleatings about Hamas are a naked attempt to distract from that fact.

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            -111 months ago

            I’m not disputing that that’s the case. But simplifying a conflict that is almost a hundred years old into a binary blame model is silly.

            • @[email protected]
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              711 months ago

              Nah, I’m happy to say that genocide is bad without feeling the need to both sides it.

        • ???OP
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          511 months ago

          For me the problem with the “both sides” argument is that it misses the symmetry issue.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            Oh and I would agree that the symmetry is way off. It’s only that the conflict is so old and complex that putting it down to a binary good/bad narrative is quite simplistic.

            No one in their right mind would call both sides innocent either. The amount of guilt and the assymetry can be argued about. I tend to agree that the Palestinian people are suffering way more than anyone in that part of the world. It seems that neither hamas nor the IDF care about them at all.