• Ategon
    link
    fedilink
    English
    9511 months ago

    Calculation for MAU changed so the old MAU and the new MAU cant really compared

    old one used to include commenters and posters while the new one has that and also voters
    both are missing people who dont do any of these three actions though

    • swab148
      link
      fedilink
      English
      2711 months ago

      It’d be hard to track lurkers on federated platforms though

      • Ategon
        link
        fedilink
        English
        9
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        For communities yes due to cross instance stats but for instances themselves (which the stats above is based on) no. You can just use post read times in addition to the three which will catch anyone who has read a post. Post reads are something each instance has access to for its users so it can do the unread comments feature but it doesn’t federate (but each instance self reports stats on itself).

        • swab148
          link
          fedilink
          English
          311 months ago

          Neat, good to know that there’s a mechanism, would there be a way for these statisticians to get this information? Or would it have to be self-reported?

          • Ategon
            link
            fedilink
            English
            311 months ago

            Self reported, no public way to get post reads, its just in the db

    • @Electromechanical_Supergiant
      link
      English
      711 months ago

      People who don’t do any of those actions are not active users. Lurkers are not active by definition.

      They shouldn’t be included in the active user count, because they’re not contributing any activity.

      • Ategon
        link
        fedilink
        English
        10
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        It depends on what is being called activity

        The standard (I say standard but its really just the thing most sites use since it boosts their numbers) that social media uses for monthly active users is to do people who have logged in. This is what mastodon uses as well

        While they aren’t actively contributing content they are still actively using the site (active account as opposed to dead account)

        I think lemmy should match up to the mastodon and other social media calculations so these comparisons actually make sense otherwise were just making lemmy feel dead by calling a different calculation MAU than what people are used to and since both calculations are being compared like they’re equal

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      311 months ago

      Yeah there was no rise in the number of servers, you might say that theoretically it means nothing but in practice i don’t think i ever saw these two metrics not correlate.