• @[email protected]
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    569 months ago

    It would be pretty difficult to do that considering the US government has been giving Israel billions a year in aid a long time before Joe Biden was President, and the vast majority of other US politicians support Israel as well. But sure, blame it on Biden I guess, maybe we can elect Trump, who will probably be asking his staff “why can’t we just kill all the Palestinians with the nuclear?”

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        159 months ago

        It’s such a crappy situation that there’s no way he could win. Anything other than siding with Israel would lead to claims of anti-semitism and criticism from the very powerful Isreal lobby, not to mention Republicans. A more nuanced position would be better, sure, but I don’t know how politically feasible it is in the US. We can definitely criticize Biden but “Genocide Joe” always strikes as stupid especially since it’s bashing Biden at a time when making him less popular would give us Genocide Donald, who would clearly be so much worse.

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          39 months ago

          Anything other than siding with Israel would lead to claims of anti-semitism and criticism from the very powerful Isreal lobby, not to mention Republicans.

          I’m not sure of that actually.

          1. By far not all American Jews are Israel supporters in this case.

          2. Not all Republicans as well.

          3. There needs to be some way to raise their voice for those who are heavily against what’s happening, which will give such a turn lots of supporters.

          And, of course, I hope you do understand that people yelling about anti-semitism in this case are different from people yelling about “white genocide” in only one aspect - they are defending mass murder happening right now, while the latter are just relatively harmless racists.

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            Where do you get “people might say mean things”? One of those reductions where someone acts like Trump being derogatory, inflammatory, thin skinned, insulting and lying is just silly little ‘mean things’? Obviously I mean that Trumps’ actions would be the same or worse, not ‘saying mean things’, though that is also significant. His inflammatory rhetoric and inconsistency does affect international relations.

            Anyway, it’s hard to find a national politician in the US who doesn’t side with Israel. I agree it would be nice if Biden took a more neutral stance, but Congress are the ones who appropriate money for Israel, not the President.

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            29 months ago

            Seems like you are expecting Rome to get rebuilt in a day

            He’s probably put together more positive legislation at this point than Obama did, which is time consuming. With the level of political obstruction in the states, less bad seems acceptable.

            Or I guess instead of wrestling one bear at a time, Biden can take on two or three?

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              39 months ago

              Yes, Biden is GNOCIDE because he doesn’t strongly oppose the ideology of 90% of the career politicians in the US. So we should just constantly slander him until we elect Trump, which will really, really help.

              • @[email protected]
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                29 months ago

                Great! Let’s talk shit about Biden and all vote for 3rd party candidates while the fascists rally around Trump. This is going to work out great.

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                    09 months ago

                    That’s fine. Many people on the left/liberal side would prefer if Biden would fuck off and not run. However, that doesn’t seem to be happening. In the meantime, the fascist shitgibbon is doing perfectly okay. People attacking Biden from his own side aren’t accomplishing jack shit besides helping Trump get elected. Great work.

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                29 months ago

                Not doing something is time consuming, when it’s entrenched in decades of policy and military strategy.

                I don’t know if you noticed but the US is all about force projection and proxy wars. Destabilize strong small governments in remote regions, upend the local economies, and cause dependence on US capital.

                How is any president going to starve those dogs without getting bitten?

                Obviously something needs to be done about it, but lying all that blame at the feet of one dude is pretty dumb.

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      Reagan stopped the bombing of West Beirut with a phone call.

      The situation reaching this stage is uniquely Biden’s fault.

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        99 months ago

        People often give that Reagan example but it doesn’t even remotely prove that Biden could stop it, in a different situation 40 years later.

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          49 months ago

          It means he could’ve done more than what he’s doing right now. A lot more. He’s not obligated by anything to support Israel’s genocide.

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            29 months ago

            I agree he can do more, but at this stage Israel is feeling so impudent and even if Biden tells them to stop, they will continue with what they are doing without a hitch.

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              39 months ago

              Hey Bibi, I’ll be shutting down your supply of iron dome missiles, shutting your access to the US arms stockpiles in Israel and cutting off all US money going into the country unless you stop your bombing campaign against the Palestinians in Gaza.

              Try that script in a phone call and see how long the bombing continues.

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              19 months ago

              They can’t. Israel is very much dependent on US direct and indirect aid (See: the US going all over the place getting Arab countries to naturalize relations with them) to survive.