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    They literally knew this was coming and attacked Israel anyway. They knew because the response was harsh and disproportionate last time and ten times prior to that. Blood is on both sides’ hands. Hamas hiding behind civilians is not helping either.

    I also understand their desire to fight oppression, but it’s obvious they can’t and will never be able to win war of any kind. Their fight must be done through different means.

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      11 months ago

      Bomb Hamas until you can see China through the crater, I really don’t care. But most people living in Gaza did not choose this and are just caught in the middle.

      I imagine you would not be happy if your whole apartment building with your family inside was bombed because your neighbor assaulted an officer.

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        411 months ago

        That’s my point, although not as cleanly stated. To me this whole thing is Hamas kicking hornets nest then running away and hiding while civilians get stung. And this repeats every few years. And no point has anyone sat down and thought: wait maybe this is a bad idea.

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          Yeah, they are terrorists. They don’t care about civilians. Big surprise.

          The concerning thing is that Israel and US don’t seem to care about them either.

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            311 months ago

            They are political party of Gaza. That’s why the recent ceasefire condition was for Hamas to leave Gaza

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            -311 months ago

            The thing with terrorism is the moment you show weakness they will keep exploiting that and repeating what works.

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              111 months ago

              You don’t fight terrorism with bombs though. You fight it by humanizing their victims, using police raids by high level units capable of reducing collateral damage, and fulfilling the needs of the population that feels oppressed enough to create terrorists.

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              011 months ago

              The thing with terrorism is the moment you show weakness they will keep exploiting that and repeating what works.

              True, but how you show strength to counter that matters, especially to the civilians caught in the middle.

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      611 months ago

      I get what you’re saying. And might even agree with elements. But it is easy to say it’s futile to fight when you aren’t in a position to need to. Doing nothing in this case means resigning not just yourself to being under their oppression, and not even just your friends and family. It is resigning your entire culture to a slow painful death by attrition. They are losing more and more land, rights, and any hope of progress. Like… if someone is strangling you, do you fight back, or just resign yourself to it? And that’s before we even get into the fact that those complying and not fighting are still being killed. Those not fighting and wanting to leave were lured to slaughter. Not fighting is an illusory choice.

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      211 months ago

      Yes, quite a few resistance movements use the oppressor’s harsh tactics against them. India and Ireland come immediately to mind.

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      111 months ago

      If someone invaded your home, locked you in a cage, and then started casually murdering your loved ones while calling it “mowing the lawn”, you would also be doing anything you could to make it stop.

      Yes, Hamas knew this would happen, but for most people in Gaza, choosing to die hiding or choosing to die fighting is the only choice they get in life.