• @BoastfulDaedra
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    56 months ago

    Are you talking about WSL!? WSL is not even close to actual Linux. Additionally, if I need to run Linux while using Windows, I will be using a VM like a seasoned professional, not the Windows equivalent of Wine in 2008.

    • Andrew
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      06 months ago

      Can you describe the essentials of what WSL is? Does it map UNIX file structure to Windows’ one? Can I access the Windows FS through it? Does it have POSIX commands?

      I heard/seen a lot of people using either WSL or “Ubuntu terminal” and I don’t have any interest because I don’t plan on using anything like this in my life, but I do want to at least understand what benefits it brings and can you replicate the true Linux terminal experience on Windows without creating a VM that have different FS from the host. Basically, I want to know if I still have any strings that I can pull to convert people to Linux, because there amount of such strings decreases every so slightly with every year, it seems.

      • @BoastfulDaedra
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        6 months ago

        Put simply, Linux is a kernel; WSL is a partial emulator of that kernel with exceedingly little support for the programs that attract people to it.

        As one popular example, there’s no support for anything graphical. I’ve heard a lot about how the feature is coming, but I’ve yet to meet anyone who got it to work.

        Under-the-hood, you are still using the bloated Windows kernel, a now 30-year-old file system which was flawed to begin with (NTFS) or something newish that’s closely related to it, and you’re facing the same exhausting privacy violations that MS has been in hot water for; except you get to do it with bash instead.

        I tried it on my laptop that had Windows 11 pre-installed, and I cannot imagine how they’re attracting anyone other than middle management and freshmen boot camp engineers with it. Apparently they found out that Ubuntu could be side-loaded in two minutes and panicked or something.

        Addendum: WSL2 is apparently less of an emulator and more of a stripped-down VM, but again, how that appeals to me more than a full VM with drag-and-drop support is beyond me. Maybe someone else can give you a use case that’s worked for them.

        • Andrew
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          26 months ago

          Thanks. Yeah, I’ve heard about WSL2 (as if the first implementation shouldn’t have also been the last one). But many probably refer to both as WSL without version number.