• azron
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    Something isn’t adding up here:

    Fare evasion cost the MTA $690 million last year, according to a new agency study that recommends upping enforcement

    nydailynews

    Just casual news reading has shown different numbers here.

    Edit: oh I get it hellgatenyc is looking for s story and saying that the people they caught only amounted to 104k in fares at like 3 bucks a fare or something around that that’s a lot of people. I’m not a fan of the NYPD but no way they didn’t deter way more than that by their presence. Whether or not you think policing fares is right this is bullshit sensationalism. Think for yourself.

      • @[email protected]
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        6211 months ago

        Public transit trips create positive externalities by reducing car trips. In order to maximize societal good, the best fare price for public transit is $0 for everybody.

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          Yup, public transit fares are regressive taxes.

          A better city would have free public transit and pay for it by taxing the businesses that insist on nobody working remotely.

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            Can you imagine? Every business taxed according to the total transit time of their workers.

            Either everyone lives in dense housing or everything becomes remote, it’d be amazing!

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              lol the wealthiest people that work in New York don’t live in New York, they mostly live in Connecticut and other close states. I’m all for it. Tax the companies that need their execs to show up the most, based on their salary, and then watch the boomers that don’t like working remote get feisty about the tax, especially because they usually have equity in the company they work for

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      Right… But they spent $89m to prevent 104k in shrinkage…

      If you’re the executive at Walmart who handles loss prevention, and you put $89m into a program that reduces shrinkage by $104k, your new duty position becomes “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out”. It’s a gross mismanagement of public money, and while it was obviously glowed up considerably, that was what was implied In the title.

      The lack of a comparison in overall losses specific to skipped fares before and after is a contemptible omission though, I’ll definitely join you on that hill :)

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        First, fantastic job tracking down the actually relevant stats rather than the person above you who was trying to debunk.

        Second - and this would only make your argument stronger and I’m not saying you needed to go this far - we would need to see if there has been an overall drop in crime rates. The tough on crime types love to tout numbers that reflect general trends as if they’re a justification or proof of the effectiveness of their policies. You need to demonstrate using proper statistical analysis to show that the falloff can accurately be attributed to a given policy.

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      Nah, it’s what you can prove you lost. Fuck scenarios that didn’t take place. There’s no way in hell they lost almost a billion dollars in fares.

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      111 months ago

      One thing I miss about Reddit is the vetting of news sites on the major news sub.

      Whether right or wrong, this “news” article comes off as pretentious and childish.

      I just want facts. If I’m reading the news, I want the facts from the news site, and I’ll get the opinions from forums.