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    Sorry. You somehow got “Oh, the MAGAts are actually protesting the health care system” out of this?

    Also: Yes, the for profit health care system is massively fucked. The covid vaccination program actually was an example of doing things right. Government subsidized with a lot of resources put toward solving the problem.

    And this went on long before the current shitshow where CVS will actively refuse to use any of the government assistance programs because it results in a lower bottom line.

    Your heart is (probably) in the right place. But could we not defend selfish dumbfuck science deniers in our quest to talk about the problems with the health care system? They are fucking morons and it is killing not just them but others. End of story.

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      Understanding and explaining how people may develop a perspective is not a defense of those people or their perspective. Simply saying “They’re morons, end of story” is unproductive. Denouncing a nuanced examination of the problem of distrust in healthcare is counterproductive. You can humanize without condoning. And clearly the intention was to address the problem in a meaningful way.

      Or maybe I’m mistaken and the solution is “Stop being morons. End of story.” /s

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          Actually, I very much went off on black communities that refused to get vaccinated. If it were “Hey, we are the US Military. Come get free candy and injections from us” I would be a lot more compassionate but it was stupidity coupled with implausible conspiracies.

          But, regardless, none of that has any fucking thing to do with the healthcare system. Black communities were not hesitant because… other forms of health care cost a lot of money. They were hesitant because their parents and grandparents were fucking experimented on like lab rats. Similarly, the magats actively argue for our health care systme to remain just as fucked up as it is.

          So, again, can we not assign some heroic protest against a fucked up health care system in the face of one of the only times this country has ever gotten health care right to the fuckheads who decided The Bible, as told by Facebook, means they should shove horse pills up their asses and spread a deadly virus to everyone around them?


          Regarding the black community and vaccinations. I think the overall video was rather shitty, but Failed Mythbuster Allen Pan did a video about a vaccine gun for some reason. And the person he had been paying as his camera person basically went off on him about how he was being insensitive by wanting people to get vaccinated and the truly heinous shit the US government had done was brought up. He, like any asian raised in the US, listened and refused to disagree and mostly just tried not to get accused of a hate crime. But the outcome was: If you are that afraid that this is a giant conspiracy to fuck over minorities… go ten miles out of your way to the white people Wallgreens and get your vaccination there.

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            Black communities were not hesitant because… other forms of health care cost a lot of money.

            This was not the issue with the health care system being pointed out. It’s that the health care system is fine with harming you if it will result in making them money. The opioid epidemic has hit many of these conservative communities hard. It’s not assigning some heroic intentions to them. It’s simple mistrust of something they know doesn’t give a damn about them.

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        Simply saying “They’re morons, end of story” is unproductive

        Yes, but it’s not less productive than trying to educate the losers, and it takes less energy so I’m able to get back to other things quicker. Cost/benefit win.