EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:

This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.

If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.

  • @[email protected]
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    010 months ago

    Wrong. Making winding roads slows down traffic but increases the amount of time it takes to cover a given distance. Which leads to less people walking and cycling plus more local air pollution. You want nice grids. People walk in NYC they don’t walk in burbs. This is what city planners refuse to grasp. You don’t make driving more difficult, you make alternatives easier.

    • Iron Lynx
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      510 months ago

      I agree with that last point, but the rest ignores the fact that this refers especially, specifically to school zones, where, as stated previously, fast traffic is a bloodbath about to happen.

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        Define school zone. Like real school zone or town that zoned everything a school zone so they could get rid of sex offenders?

        • Iron Lynx
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          010 months ago

          We’re talking the area just around a school where it’s safe to assume there are likely to be a lot of children outside of vehicles.

          • @[email protected]
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            010 months ago

            Might be less children around exiting vehicles if road wasn’t designed for one fucking vehicle at a time made out bricks because some moron hired a city planner. Why don’t you just post snipers and shot ambulance drivers?

    • @[email protected]
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      110 months ago

      The road can have unnecessary curves that the sidewalks and bike lanes do not.

      There are other ways to slow vehicles as well such as chicanes that narrow the street at certain points such that only 1 vehicle can pass fit through it at once, raised crosswalks, etc. There are a lot of ways to design the street to force drivers to slow down and pay attention.

      Unfortunately, if drivers have room to speed then it comes at the expense of the well being and safety of everyone else (even other drivers).

      I agree that winding culdesacs suck btw, but a street grid doesn’t solve the problem if safety in front of a school. If designed poorly it can make it worse since long straight streets can easily be turned into drag strips of speeding vehicles. Street grids are fine and good, but they should not allow drivers to go faster than is compatible with a pleasant and safe environment for people outside of the vehicles.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        I want to see a road that curves with a bike lane that doesn’t that isn’t so bizarre that no one would ever use it.

          • @[email protected]
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            -310 months ago

            A. That isn’t what you were talking about about

            B. You can’t find it because it doesn’t exist

            C. Congrats, this shit road is going to delay emergency responses and will cause accidents when there is even a slight amount of ice

            People are going to die because of abominations like this, not like you care.

    • Zagorath
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      010 months ago

      Making winding roads slows down traffic but increases the amount of time it takes to cover a given distance

      You don’t do this everywhere. You do it where you want traffic speeds to be low. Residential streets, school zones, shopping precincts, and the like.

      Plus, you further aid pedestrians and cyclists by having these residential streets not be through-traffic, except to pedestrians and cyclists. Use “modal filters”.

    • @[email protected]
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      -110 months ago

      The pedestrians and cyclists get good straight paths. The curves on the road are made by consuming its excess width

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        Cool show me an example of your fictional city. I want to see one that is a grid for cyclists+people and a burb for cars.