• @[email protected]
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    Are people on the left saying this?

    The 2 things I’ve really not liked about biden is he

    1. Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.

    2. Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.

    Other wise his admin has ranged from pretty good to business as usual. 1000% better than trump, but also with some glaring problems.

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      Are people on the left saying this?

      A few. A small, but very loud group online. They’re larger on the Fediverse than most places.

        • PugJesus
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          4910 months ago

          Usually, that’s the accusation leveled towards “Vote Blue no matter who” types, not the far-left types who deny that Democrats have ever done anything that has improved anyone’s life.

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            Oh, I meant the people saying all the stuff that SpongeBob is showing Patrick.

            Blue MAGA are vociferous that Biden is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

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              I have never, ever come across this person, but I will totally vote blue no matter who when the opposition is today’s average Republican

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              That’s… not a thing. I can walk outside and find a MAGA, I would have to troll online depths to find anyone that thinks Biden is great.

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      2 is huge, but you forgot that he busted the railroad union which directly led to ohio burning down

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        2 is kinda irrelevant in the context of the election though. If you think Biden supports them too much wait until you see the alternative. Trump doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy to say “Palestinians need our help”. He strikes me as the guy who’ll say “See? This is why I’m writing a new Muslim ban”

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      Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t his Administration forced to continue those by SCotUS?

      Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.

      Agree, but that looks like it’s starting to turn as well.

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        Agree, but that looks like it’s starting to turn as well

        Honest question, where have you seen this?

        All I’ve seen is talk about possibly maybe telling them to stop genociding. Other than that it’s business as usual. The whole siding with Israel at the ICJ trial isn’t a great look

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          Honest question, where have you seen this?

          In international politics, there are very few unscripted statements. What is said is an important reflection of a country’s concerns, and behind-the-scenes demands. There is a distinct contrast between statements from before the current crisis and statements since, especially compared to the unconditional bootlicking normally offered by the US State Department to Israel.

          We are at a point where support for the current course is wavering, and there is the possibility of change in our Israel policy, depending on how the opinions of the electorate continue to develop on the issue.

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            Remember when Kamalla Harris said during her speach at COP28 something about the US putting pressure on Israel and then not a week later the US vetoed the resolution for a Cease Fire at the UN Security Council?!

            It’s wasn’t even that long ago that this happenned.

            There really is no reason at all to believe that the Biden Administration has finally given up on their practice of trying to sway voters their way by nothing more than “talking the talk” whilst completelly refusing to “walk the walk” (at times, quite the contrary)

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        Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t his Administration forced to continue those by SCotUS?

        Some, but he’s also put some effort of his own on being seen as ‘tough on the border’ due to increased migration.

        A stupid decision, but a predictable one considering the hand-wringing our population goes through every fucking time there’s a bump in scary furriners coming in to this land which our ancestors were born i-oh, wait

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      I think the DNC finally discovered Lemmy. There’s been a huge uptick of VBNMW and “how dare anyone question Biden” posts. Voters can be critical of Biden and the Dems and still vote for them to “stop Trump”. Even though Trump is merely a symptom of the crappy system we have.

      Edit: also, calling the far left nut jobs isn’t going to win any of them over.