• xigoi
      link
      fedilink
      English
      811 months ago

      In what country is it legal for restaurants to say “market price” instead of showing the prices? So I can never go there?

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        311 months ago

        Where is it illegal? I’ve seen Market Price listed for various menu items across the US.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          811 months ago

          across the US

          Ah, that explains it. Over here in Germany, presumably the entirety of the EU and likelu most of the world this is not allowed:

          Any business offering goods or services to consumers or advertising goods or services to consumers by stating prices must state the total prices.

          § 3 (1), PAngV

          Of course, this isn’t nearly detailed enough. That’s why, for restaurants etc. the following applies:

          The price lists must either be clearly legible at the time of the offer, displayed on tables or presented to each guest before orders are taken and upon request when the order is settled. A price list showing the prices of the main food and drink on offer must be displayed next to the entrance to the restaurant. If the restaurant is part of another establishment, it is sufficient to display the price list at the entrance to the restaurant section.

          § 13 (2), PAngV

          Just listing the menu with “market price” would violate both these paragraphs. The following exists as well:

          The prices listed in the price lists in accordance with sections 1 to 3 must include the service charge and all other surcharges.

          § 13 (5), PAngV

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            311 months ago

            They will tell you the price when you are there and ask or if you call the restaurant. I’ve seen Market Price listed for fish and some more rare and exotic things like alligator and rattlesnake presumably because the price to the restaurant can change or the it could be based off the weight of a lobster or something like that.

        • xigoi
          link
          fedilink
          English
          411 months ago

          I’ve been to several countries in the EU and never seen a restaurant without explicit prices.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            111 months ago

            When I’ve seen it, the menu item was something like fish or lobster mostly, presumably because the cost to the restaurant can change as the prices as the market change and depending on the size of the fish or lobster. Otherwise, I’ve only seen it for rare/exotic meats like alligator or rattlesnake.

      • @And009
        link
        English
        -511 months ago

        I mean for things like bottled water or soda, ‘market price’ should be fine. Those are commonly bought everywhere. Things available locally should mention the current price, can’t expect guests to know trends.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          12
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Even for commonly sold items this practice is harmful to the consumer:

          • difficult to prove someone wrong, even if their price is higher than usual
          • easy to hide a higher price (“well, the local markets we shop at…”)
          • if the price isn’t higher than usual, why hide it behind this

          Information asymmetry shifts the power in any economic activities, and should never be encouraged.

          • @And009
            link
            English
            211 months ago

            Ah, now that’s a straight up scam. Market price should directly mean the price ‘printed’ on it or the retail price. Anything else needs to be mentioned explicitly