• deweydecibel
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    10 months ago

    You mean if they were stupid enough to try nominating any of the candidates Biden beat 4 years ago? Stupid enough to gamble on a new candidate, ignoring the fact Biden already beat Trump once? Stupid enough to ignore the fact the fact that the incumbent president more often than not wins reelection?

    You’re right, democracy is on the line, now’s the best time to fucking gamble it away.

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        1610 months ago

        don’t worry we’ll just go further left in 4 years :)”

        But we did. The Inflation Reduction Act was not only the most climate friendly bill in US history, it bolstered domestic green energy companies so much that Canada and Europe had to pass similar legislation to stay competitive (and keep companies from relocating).

        The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Israel is going to keep killing babies, and the US president is going to support Israel, no matter who it is, for the foreseeable future.

        Your choice is if you’ll willingly accept the burden and do whatever you can nonetheless to help the most people domestically and globally – or if you’ll pretend you aren’t carrying the burden, and you’re willing to throw women, black Americans, brown Americans, gay Americans, trans Americans, etc under the bus to maintain that delusion.

        No matter what you do, if you pay taxes in the US, you’re funding infanticidal Israeli weapons. Democracy is shitty like that. The majority of people are uncomfortable with all the civilian deaths, but a majority still wants to fund weapons for them. Don’t like it? Grit your teeth, try to make a difference, and minimize any unnecessary support to Israel.

        There will be no leftist utopia except from the labor of blood soaked hands from those who understand there’s no other choice. I can only hope that one day my kids or their kids will be able to judge me without any hypocrisy, because we successfully made a world free of these awful realities.

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            810 months ago

            Going to tell you: History is not kind to leftists who kowtow to Fascists because they’ll “burn it down” (Look up Social Fascism)

            They end up with bullets in their heads rather than glorious revolution.

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            510 months ago

            In case you’re wondering, for future reference, the reason why you never seem to find progressives who’ll vote for Biden or support the mainstream Democrat candidate is because when we try to earnestly explain our viewpoint and how we think we can help the most people, we just run into non serious memelords.

            But on the bright side, it wasn’t wasted time on my part. People still saw what I had to say, and you made it look all the wiser. Shame that you’ve only continued to drain supporters from your “burn it down” caucus though.

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                210 months ago

                Playing by their rules may not be the fastest or most efficient way to fix our problems, but it is the method that will hurt the fewest innocent and poor people along the way. I refuse to sacrifice the working class so that we can save the working class. Especially since human nature is likely to just make modest improvements for the working class and just establish a new ruling class.

                You really need to lighten up a bit. Are we headed for turmoil? Yes. But are we headed for mass human extinction and world war? Likely not.

                Having kids is what forces society to be selfless. I find myself willing to personally sacrifice a whole lot for today’s youth, and I don’t have any kids of my own. I’m probably not going to reap the full rewards of our efforts to fix climate change. The kids are though. Children force us to have hope for the future, that things can get better, because it makes us want things to get better. I want my trials and tribulations today to only be in textbooks in the future.

                Once again, you need to lighten up. You’ve lost sight of what you’re even fighting for. You aren’t trying to save or help people, you’re trying to win against the capitalists at all costs. Without the former, the latter just makes you a different flavor of them.

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      410 months ago

      Biden didn’t beat shit. He had the DNC machine tell all the other candidates to drop out and put their full support behind Biden and have the media machine pump out story after story about Biden’s miraculous turnaround. Biden beat the other candidates in the same way Putin scored 8 goals in a hockey game.