Every generation: “I know all the generations before me have whined about the new music the kids are listening to, and I always correctly identified their whining as pathetic old-person behavior. But MY generation is actually right. The new music objectively sucks.”
It’ll happen to the current batch of kids, too.
Nobody will ever rise above it. It’s just a basic part of human nature. You might as well ask people to stop breathing.
Selection bias is huge too. You could argue that the current hits suck, and that the current hits have always sucked in every era. Lots of them do, they’re disposable trash music.
The difference is that we don’t remember half the garbage that hit the charts when we were young, only the good stuff survives. When I play classic bangers for my daughter, she thinks they’re awesome. Some of those tracks are older than me, but with streaming services and huge libraries “hits” don’t really matter that much when we can now listen to the best tracks picked out of a century of recorded music.
I’m nearly 40 and I like to blast some of the current hits, I like stuff from the 90s and I like classic rock, funk and some of the really old jazz and blues stuff. There’s no reason to act like your age has to determine your musical taste.
I have no time for some of the modern rappers with no skill though, that stuff is objectively trash when we grew up with legends like Outkast, Eminem etc lol
Blah, blah, blah, just a bunch of music snob nonsense, spewing from your keyboard.
Just stop being a music snob. It’s better and easier. You’re NEVER going to convince people to start hating the music that they like. And if you do, that’s just fucking sad for everyone involved.
That’s kinda missing the point. I am aware my taste in music is not the same as the new generation, still I hear and discover new music that’s actually interesting.
On the other hand, Spotify misses the opportunity to actually offer you discovering new genres, artists, songs that you may like. That’s OPs point, and I agree.
The last time a streaming service actually made me discover new music was 2015 Deezer.
I think people will still remember a few dozen songs, while most of the rest will simply fall into obscurity.
Also real, longlasting appeal is found in the alternative and more original parts of the music industry more often than in the popular corporate top-10 drivel.
If you go through the music of the era you like, there was slop there are well. Slop isn’t new. You just like some of the music that survived that time period.
Its like with literature. We have “the classics.” The range from a lot of different eras. And many of them are great, even if not for everyone. But then you go through sights like Project Gutenberg, where they are trying to make a digital copy of every book in the public domain, and you start to realize just how many books there were that no one talks about. And those are just ones that have survived.
If you want a great example of this with music: disco. Disco was essentially the pop of it’s time. It’s really where pop was born. Super popular for a short period of time. Lots of famous groups because of it.
How many can you name off the top of your head? How many do you think most people can name? Probably not many. Because a lot of it might have been good, but it was really that good.
I listen to metal. But I didn’t get into it until my junior year of high school. So about 2006-2007. Before that I knew Metallica. I knew Black Sabbath. Things like that, but I never got into the genre until that point. I also realize that I only habe listened to a very small fraction of the bands from that era, because more of it is just buried and forgotten about.
We can take this a step further. I probably wouldn’t be able to list 1/5th of the bands I listened to in the 2010s. A lot of those bands I might think about from time to time, but many of them that I actually enjoyed I’ll probably remember. They were good, but didn’t have much staying power. They weren’t exceptional. They didn’t influence anything. But I still enjoyed listening to them.
This is a shortened version to say that while I’m sure it’s great to cum to your superior taste, music has had slop for a long time, and you’re not better for not enjoying it. You’re just boring.
This is really defensive for no reason. I am fully aware that schlocky mainstream lowest common denominator slop is not new. At all. And I didn’t claim that it was new.
A garbage top 40 song from the 60s can be just as bad, or worse, than a garbage top 40 song today. The point isn’t that bad music is new, the point is that bad music is bad. And that there’s a lot of it. Which is also true of film, books, and really all forms of art. Admitting that is no vice.
Every generation: “I know all the generations before me have whined about the new music the kids are listening to, and I always correctly identified their whining as pathetic old-person behavior. But MY generation is actually right. The new music objectively sucks.”
It’ll happen to the current batch of kids, too.
Nobody will ever rise above it. It’s just a basic part of human nature. You might as well ask people to stop breathing.
Selection bias is huge too. You could argue that the current hits suck, and that the current hits have always sucked in every era. Lots of them do, they’re disposable trash music.
The difference is that we don’t remember half the garbage that hit the charts when we were young, only the good stuff survives. When I play classic bangers for my daughter, she thinks they’re awesome. Some of those tracks are older than me, but with streaming services and huge libraries “hits” don’t really matter that much when we can now listen to the best tracks picked out of a century of recorded music.
I’m nearly 40 and I like to blast some of the current hits, I like stuff from the 90s and I like classic rock, funk and some of the really old jazz and blues stuff. There’s no reason to act like your age has to determine your musical taste.
I have no time for some of the modern rappers with no skill though, that stuff is objectively trash when we grew up with legends like Outkast, Eminem etc lol
Blah, blah, blah, just a bunch of music snob nonsense, spewing from your keyboard.
Just stop being a music snob. It’s better and easier. You’re NEVER going to convince people to start hating the music that they like. And if you do, that’s just fucking sad for everyone involved.
All art should be criticized, and bad art should certainly be criticized
And bad art that was made with the immense backing of the status quo should be especially criticized.
That’s kinda missing the point. I am aware my taste in music is not the same as the new generation, still I hear and discover new music that’s actually interesting.
On the other hand, Spotify misses the opportunity to actually offer you discovering new genres, artists, songs that you may like. That’s OPs point, and I agree.
The last time a streaming service actually made me discover new music was 2015 Deezer.
Idk, I think Spotify’s Discover Weekly is pretty good at finding music from less popular bands but YMMV.
My experience is completely shitty. I’m in a Spanish speaking country, and all it recommends me is music from Spanish speakers, and oldies…
I mean, the OP was looking just at the top 50 global, not their discovery.
I think people will still remember a few dozen songs, while most of the rest will simply fall into obscurity.
Also real, longlasting appeal is found in the alternative and more original parts of the music industry more often than in the popular corporate top-10 drivel.
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Well you can go ahead and take a 3 day timeout while you read rule 1.
They really aren’t living up to their username in this thread.
Meh, I always hated my generations music. But that is just me cause the others of course love it.
Ahh, so you became a hipster snob EARLY. Lots of people do. It’s fine. I mean, it’s not curable, but neither is most of life.
Having taste isn’t being a snob
Disliking slop is no vice
Having taste = guides what you consume.
Talking about having taste = snobbery.
Fact.
If you go through the music of the era you like, there was slop there are well. Slop isn’t new. You just like some of the music that survived that time period.
Its like with literature. We have “the classics.” The range from a lot of different eras. And many of them are great, even if not for everyone. But then you go through sights like Project Gutenberg, where they are trying to make a digital copy of every book in the public domain, and you start to realize just how many books there were that no one talks about. And those are just ones that have survived.
If you want a great example of this with music: disco. Disco was essentially the pop of it’s time. It’s really where pop was born. Super popular for a short period of time. Lots of famous groups because of it.
How many can you name off the top of your head? How many do you think most people can name? Probably not many. Because a lot of it might have been good, but it was really that good.
I listen to metal. But I didn’t get into it until my junior year of high school. So about 2006-2007. Before that I knew Metallica. I knew Black Sabbath. Things like that, but I never got into the genre until that point. I also realize that I only habe listened to a very small fraction of the bands from that era, because more of it is just buried and forgotten about.
We can take this a step further. I probably wouldn’t be able to list 1/5th of the bands I listened to in the 2010s. A lot of those bands I might think about from time to time, but many of them that I actually enjoyed I’ll probably remember. They were good, but didn’t have much staying power. They weren’t exceptional. They didn’t influence anything. But I still enjoyed listening to them.
This is a shortened version to say that while I’m sure it’s great to cum to your superior taste, music has had slop for a long time, and you’re not better for not enjoying it. You’re just boring.
This is really defensive for no reason. I am fully aware that schlocky mainstream lowest common denominator slop is not new. At all. And I didn’t claim that it was new.
A garbage top 40 song from the 60s can be just as bad, or worse, than a garbage top 40 song today. The point isn’t that bad music is new, the point is that bad music is bad. And that there’s a lot of it. Which is also true of film, books, and really all forms of art. Admitting that is no vice.
Also life is curable
Nah, music of my generation also sucks too.
I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH GOOD TASTE!! Muuuu hahahahaha!
Academically, they proved music peaked in the 60s.