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MILWAUKEE (CNN) - A woman in Milwaukee says her Kia has been stolen three times, even after she installed a free security upgrade meant to prevent this crime from happening.
MILWAUKEE (CNN) - A woman in Milwaukee says her Kia has been stolen three times, even after she installed a free security upgrade meant to prevent this crime from happening.
I don’t see this as Kia’s fault at all. These cars were bare basement bottom of the line cars. They included very limited security systems. It is not a responsibility of the manufacturer to provide any level of security or to help you when your shit is stolen.
It is their responsibility to not make a security system so bad that teens with a USB drive can steal the car.
No, it isnt. That would just drive up the cost and make it even more unaffordable. They made important cars that cater to a specific demographic, and it was a complete non-issue before it became a TikTok trend.
The thing is, the exact same models sold in Canada have immobilizers installed in them as standard. And it costs just a couple of bucks per car for them to do that. I guess your point is kinda valid in the sense that because they weren’t required by law to do it in the US, they didn’t. While they didn’t break any laws, it’s still a dumb thing to do to penny pinch. All their 2023 models and up now have immobilizers on them with prices still within their class range, so it’s not like they couldn’t do it.
Also, they aren’t exactly bottom of the barrel anymore nowadays and their cars are sold at a premium.
Where did you get that idea?
You can buy an aftermarket immobilizer for $30 on amazon. A car manufacturer can probably get them for cheaper in bulk.
Helen, why were immobilizers standard in just about every other manufacturer’s vehicles? Some things are not the burden of the consumer - you should not need to be an expert in your doctors provided care or in the additives in your toothpaste. Do you know why? because even if you arrogantly thought you had a grasp on it, you’d likely be doing a shit job, because you’re not a doctor or a chemical engineer. The government should have regulated this as a standard need, but short of that, this is was much of a standard as you can have (especially in Europe).
It’s a great example though of how enough companies to make an impact WILL NOT do the right thing unless it is mandated. Hyundai was the test balloon and if they got away with it, others would have followed. Only good news arid this is that the PR shit show Hyundai bought for themselves will scare off other manufacturer’s from shedding those $1.24 worth of parts from their BOM for another few years at least.
They aren’t. They’re offered in many cars to prevent theft. 🤯
Lots of things are not anyone’s burden. Like immobilizers. I mean maybe one day UNICEF will enter the immobilization industry and we can all have them for free. Until then, it costs someone money. If the consumer wants to pay for it, they can choose 1 of hundreds of other vehicles. If they don’t, that is their choice also. It’s not the manufacturer’s burden.
And you don’t have to be. That’s why there are doctors and dentists. You do still maintain a responsibility of educating yourself on some basic level and maintaining your personal health. Not really sure what your point was there.
Immobilisers have been mandatory in all new cars sold in Germany since 1 January 1998, in the United Kingdom since 1 October 1998, in Finland since 1998, in Australia since 2001 and in Canada since 2007.
Unfortunately in the good old US of A that is somehow not the case, but it remains a fact that it is a bare minimum requirement for vehicle security. You will not purchase a vehicle in America that is not a Kia that does not have an immobilizer.
That’s great. I’m happy for those countries. What does that have to do with this conversation?
The fact that they are, factually, standard on every other manufacturer’s vehicles, like you want to insist they aren’t. You’re clearly refusing to understand the words being communicated to you so, good luck in life I guess, this conversation is done.
Well it must be true because you said it was, right? 😂
You can buy an add-on immobilizer on Amazon or eBay for $20. The cost to a car company to build this into the computer in the factory should be under $10. Virtually every other car company has used them by default in everything since the mid 1990s.
It’s probably garbage. OEMs aren’t installing garbage. That would make the situation 10x worse.