I just see this as you continuing to defend the actual psychopaths, in the situation. Let me try to make this clearer, for you:
The scammers who sell pretend starships have been happily doing so for YEARS, by now. They know about the stories of people compulsively spending thousands of dollars on their bullshit. They know there are people out there, who have had to break down and tell their spouses “I spent the kids’ college fund on a bunch of in-game starships…BUT HONEY, WE’LL BE ABLE TO FLIP THEM FOR TEN TIMES WHAT I INVESTED! WHY ARE YOU CRYING?”
That shit has happened. To real people. And the asshole scammers absolutely know about it. And they DO NOT CARE, AT ALL. That’s what psychopathy is. They calmly and happily continue to spend those people’s hard-earned dollars. Not on the game. Not investing it back into the game. Oh, no. If they had been using all that fucking money to develop the game, it would have come out years and years ago.
They’re funding their own investments, their own lavish lifestyles, their own egomaniacal satisfaction. They will never feel any guilt about what they’re doing, because they don’t feel guilt. Again: they are actual psychopaths.
The only way to make them feel anything negative about what they’ve done would be to imprison them, in that horrible place in the desert, where they can only see a tiny rectangle of sunlight, and barely have enough space to stretch to their full height. They won’t ever feel bad about the pain they caused other people. They can’t. They would only ever feel sorry for themselves. But I want them to feel that pain.
I don’t see how you can disagree, knowing that most of their victims will NEVER be financially okay again, and the perpetrators of the scam are just freely living the good life. What passes for a concept of justice, inside your head?
Dude, I get your frustration, but you should really consider the difference between a scam and an unjust product made to vacuum cash out of gullible people.
A scam is them promising a product, gathering cash for it, and then fucking off into nirvana with nothing but the website left. That’d be a scam.
Them delivering a shitty half-arsed game with even more shitty overpriced in-game assets is no scam at all. It sucks, it’s shit, it should be punished by public flogging, but it ain’t. They did nothing illegal.
If you order a “mystery pizza” and you’ll receive a cold pizza with no ingredients, is that a scam? Nope. It’s on you. Does it suck? YES. Is it unfair? YES! Should it be punished? YES. But is it a scam? NO.
If we agree that these people should be punished, why are we arguing about the terminology? Terminology doesn’t mean anything. I’m happy to admit that, by your definition, this specific evil shit is not a “scam.” That’s absolutely fine with me.
The important thing is how THESE PIECES OF SHIT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE.
As long as you agree with that statement, we’re cool.
It’s not MY definition of scam. It’s the definition of scam.
Starfield is none. It’s just like a modern-day snake-oil-merchant. If you believe all the merchant-talk how great it MIGHT be (here’s the big difference to a scam where you have been betrayed by your partner OR your own judgment), it’s just on you.
By buying into starfield, there was nowhere a contractual binding to a timewindow in which a product of a certain quality was promised. Only what they hope to achieve.
So, yes, terminology matters much. You can’t just say something is green while it’s actually red, and expect to be taken serious. No offense meant!
And yes, this kind of early-access should be governed by strict rules. Like a money-back-policy in percentage to the delivered content that was promised. But it isn’t, so it’s up to us not to buy into it, or just see it as wasted money with a slight chance something great might come out.
…do you think we’re talking about Starfield, made by Bethesda Softworks? The game that released last year, to mixed reviews and polarized opinions?
THAT’S NOT WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. Starfield also has spaceships, but you can’t fucking buy them with real-world money. We’re talking about STAR CITIZEN. It’s a completely different thing.
Please tell me you’re just typing the wrong name. Please tell me you don’t actually think we’re talking about Starfield.
I just see this as you continuing to defend the actual psychopaths, in the situation. Let me try to make this clearer, for you:
The scammers who sell pretend starships have been happily doing so for YEARS, by now. They know about the stories of people compulsively spending thousands of dollars on their bullshit. They know there are people out there, who have had to break down and tell their spouses “I spent the kids’ college fund on a bunch of in-game starships…BUT HONEY, WE’LL BE ABLE TO FLIP THEM FOR TEN TIMES WHAT I INVESTED! WHY ARE YOU CRYING?”
That shit has happened. To real people. And the asshole scammers absolutely know about it. And they DO NOT CARE, AT ALL. That’s what psychopathy is. They calmly and happily continue to spend those people’s hard-earned dollars. Not on the game. Not investing it back into the game. Oh, no. If they had been using all that fucking money to develop the game, it would have come out years and years ago.
They’re funding their own investments, their own lavish lifestyles, their own egomaniacal satisfaction. They will never feel any guilt about what they’re doing, because they don’t feel guilt. Again: they are actual psychopaths.
The only way to make them feel anything negative about what they’ve done would be to imprison them, in that horrible place in the desert, where they can only see a tiny rectangle of sunlight, and barely have enough space to stretch to their full height. They won’t ever feel bad about the pain they caused other people. They can’t. They would only ever feel sorry for themselves. But I want them to feel that pain.
I don’t see how you can disagree, knowing that most of their victims will NEVER be financially okay again, and the perpetrators of the scam are just freely living the good life. What passes for a concept of justice, inside your head?
I think you misunderstood
No. I did not.
You think scammer psychopaths should be praised and rewarded. I think they should be punished endlessly. That is the cold reality of this situation.
Lost a lot of money on Star citizen eh?
Nope. Once again, you people don’t seem to be familiar with the concept of a person CARING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING TO GAIN.
Lots of psychopaths here, and I’m not one of them. And yet people are accusing me of being one. Fucking hilarious.
Why are you shouting?
It may be helpful for you to take a break from social media for a bit. This is clearly unhealthy for you.
Whatever. Fair enough.
Dude, I get your frustration, but you should really consider the difference between a scam and an unjust product made to vacuum cash out of gullible people.
A scam is them promising a product, gathering cash for it, and then fucking off into nirvana with nothing but the website left. That’d be a scam. Them delivering a shitty half-arsed game with even more shitty overpriced in-game assets is no scam at all. It sucks, it’s shit, it should be punished by public flogging, but it ain’t. They did nothing illegal.
If you order a “mystery pizza” and you’ll receive a cold pizza with no ingredients, is that a scam? Nope. It’s on you. Does it suck? YES. Is it unfair? YES! Should it be punished? YES. But is it a scam? NO.
If we agree that these people should be punished, why are we arguing about the terminology? Terminology doesn’t mean anything. I’m happy to admit that, by your definition, this specific evil shit is not a “scam.” That’s absolutely fine with me.
The important thing is how THESE PIECES OF SHIT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE.
As long as you agree with that statement, we’re cool.
Why are you so emotionally invested?
It’s not MY definition of scam. It’s the definition of scam.
Starfield is none. It’s just like a modern-day snake-oil-merchant. If you believe all the merchant-talk how great it MIGHT be (here’s the big difference to a scam where you have been betrayed by your partner OR your own judgment), it’s just on you.
By buying into starfield, there was nowhere a contractual binding to a timewindow in which a product of a certain quality was promised. Only what they hope to achieve.
So, yes, terminology matters much. You can’t just say something is green while it’s actually red, and expect to be taken serious. No offense meant!
And yes, this kind of early-access should be governed by strict rules. Like a money-back-policy in percentage to the delivered content that was promised. But it isn’t, so it’s up to us not to buy into it, or just see it as wasted money with a slight chance something great might come out.
…do you think we’re talking about Starfield, made by Bethesda Softworks? The game that released last year, to mixed reviews and polarized opinions?
THAT’S NOT WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. Starfield also has spaceships, but you can’t fucking buy them with real-world money. We’re talking about STAR CITIZEN. It’s a completely different thing.
Please tell me you’re just typing the wrong name. Please tell me you don’t actually think we’re talking about Starfield.
lol, no, wrong name. Just had hefty rl-discussions about effing starfield, hence the confusion… :) Yeah, star CITIZEN i was talking about.