So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can’t fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

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    2679 months ago

    Because he’s either innocent until proven guilty or he’s served his time. You can discuss it with HR and express your concerns about him, but unless he’s continued to behave predatorily he’s likely just only going to be subjected to increased scrutiny

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      819 months ago

      The last time he raped someone he was in prison for less than 2 years. Considering that wasn’t his first offence I highly doubt that changed him. Also HR is already aware. Apparently they fired the last person who brought it up to them.

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        539 months ago

        Oh then yeah I’ve got no fucking clue, firing the last person who brought it up absolutely should be illegal.

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          479 months ago

          Depends on the details of why they were fired. We’re obviously only getting one side of the story here

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        379 months ago
        1. Be in an industry and location where finding a backup job is not impossible
        2. Record yourself telling HR you’re afraid for your coworkers and yourself
        3. Email HR a summary of your meeting

        Optional subsequent steps

        1. Get fired
        2. Take the audio to a labor attorney who will take your wrongful termination case for free
        3. Profit
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        199 months ago

        Repeat offenders are the one I’d be worried about, america isn’t known for functioning reform system.

        I hope your friend can heal, sorry for what your dealing with

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          39 months ago

          functioning reform system

          Sounds like you want them staying a Club Med and being waited on hand and foot. Gimme a break! Jk it is an absolute catastrophe and the US should know better since it’s such a fucking pro at locking up about 1/200 citizens. (!!?). sorry.

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        69 months ago

        Where I work, most positions do not require a background check so we have a mix of people (men, women, trans, nonbinary) with criminal convictions, including sex offenders.

        The only thing that matters is their behavior in the workplace. You get fired because of attendance or poor performance.

        The biggest problem people at my workplace are the people who try to make someones past an issue.

        Also, your statement that you “highly doubt that changed him” is very telling. Basically it shows that you are the one with the problem. Unless you have firsthand knowledge then you are trying to justify your negative feelings.

        Maybe this last time changed them. Maybe they got help. Maybe they’re in therapy and are trying to change.

        This person and your employer are under no obligation to do what you want when there is no justification other than your own personal judgement.

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        409 months ago

        I mean you are making a fair argument that there’s a distinction between your own morals and the binding rules in place. You are free to feel a lot of things that are very bad, but when you act on them you will bump into reality.

        That said I think the original comment was meant to say that the only reason he is here is because society through the legal process has found him to be safe to work there.

        Now to get beyond the feelings against him OP can obviously talk to HR and make sure they get some distance, but if the courts found him not guilty, he deserves to be there. Imagine serving years in prison, working on yourself until the government finally finds you fit enough to enter society again, only for ppl to kick you out of your job again because of something you tried so hard to leave behind. That’s why the prison system usually focuses on rehabilitation instead of punishment in most civil countries.

        What I’m saying is, the court’s ruling does not have to change the way you feel, but the court also says you have no right to take his job from him unless he commits crimes again. No feeling can measure heavy enough to weigh up against the right for him to live a normal life.

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          229 months ago

          Yeah, exactly. Rehabilitative justice is hard. His victims should never be expected to be near him again, but society needs to give people chances to demonstrate rehabilitation. Denying someone access to half the population guarantees they never rehabilitate. But it’s also fair to say that in America we don’t really bother rehabilitating people and if someone has been to prison multiple times for rape well, I don’t want to be alone with them either and I’d be uncomfortable with my employer forcing me to be alone with them. And that’s the situation as OP has clarified and yeah it definitely sounds like it may be a hostile workplace.

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            229 months ago

            Correction, right to a safe work place, not feel safe. Feeling safe and being safe are different things. And this disconnect is actually a real problem.

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        319 months ago

        It doesn’t change the reality of whether or not the individual committed a crime.

        But YOU cannot know that “reality” unless (either you are the judge or) you have knowledge of the court’s verdict.

        Calling someone a criminal without any such knowledge is a false accusation.

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