I have a friend who has been using an e-cigarette for 10+ years. He doesn’t seem any less addicted to smoking as back when he was using old-fashioned cigarettes.

I understand e-cigarettes are supposed to help you quit… but has anyone actually had success with them? Or, is it more like trading one vice for another?

  • TouchTheFuckingFrog
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    21 year ago

    are we really willing to sacrifice ‘good’ for ‘perfect’?

    It’s not about sacrificing good for perfect, but rather sacrificing good for profit.

    • Ixoid
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      41 year ago

      I suspect the big drivers of the push to demonise vaping are funded by Big Tobacco. So yes, we may be sacrificing a good alternative to protect tobacco profits for a few more years.

      • @[email protected]
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        61 year ago

        Aren’t there vape companies owned by tobacco companies? I know Vuse is. Tobacco has been on decline for a while now and lot of them are pivoting into other areas.

      • Aesthesiaphilia
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        31 year ago

        Funny enough, it’s also aspects of the US government. There was a huge tobacco settlement across multiple states. The states opted to receive their settlement funds over a period of decades. The payout amount is tied to the number of cigarette smokers, NOT the number of vapers.

        AND THEN, a bunch of state governments leveraged those predicted future funds into short term loans that they used to plug budget holes.

        Enter vaping. The number of cigarette smokers begins to nose dive.

        Enter an unholy union of cash strapped state governments and big tobacco money, and the perfect catalyst in a tiny number of stupid teenagers getting sketchy fake weed from China and dying from it. WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF UNTIL CHILDREN!! Boom, bans.

        Nicotine itself is highly addictive but not terribly harmful. All the harmful shit is in the tar and other crap in cigarettes.

        I personally used vaping to totally quit cigarettes. It was excellent. And now in my state vaping is effectively banned. We have to turn to black market mods and shit. It’s horrible, and in 40 years it’s going to be a massive “how the fuck did we let this happen” part of our history along with subprime mortgages and zero tolerance laws.